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Old 08-03-2008, 09:26 AM   #136
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I don't think there is any way Obama will pick a woman other than Hillary. He still has a left of Hillary supporters who aren't on his side yet and may vote for McCain, and picking a woman would probably only make it worse.

And I disagree that he doesn't need to pick someone with foreign policy/defense experience. I think he desperately needs that.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:35 AM   #137
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Who the heck is Eric Cantor?

In other breaking news John McCain just knocked on my neighbor's door and asked him to be VP
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:54 AM   #138
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You see how Obama gins up that mass hysteria with this kind of talk. The guys dangerous, people, I'm telling you. You gotta watch him!


just what is he doing next to that white lady?
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:10 AM   #139
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Who the heck is Eric Cantor?

In other breaking news John McCain just knocked on my neighbor's door and asked him to be VP
Eric Cantor is my congressman ( ), he lives about 10 minutes from me in a very hoidy-toidy community. He's one of the most conservative members of congress, Jewish, and he's been one of Bush's biggest cheerleaders. This district is solidly conservative for him, I don't see him losing his seat in reelection anytime soon unless he gets caught in some horrid scandal

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Lawmakers and their staffs took golfing trips that Abramoff arranged--and sometimes paid for--to Scotland and the Northern Mariana Islands. Abramoff's now defunct restaurant Signatures was host to more than 60 fund raisers for members of Congress and often neglected to send a bill. At the lobbyist's delicatessen Stacks, Abramoff even named a sandwich after Congressman Eric Cantor at a $500-a-plate fund raiser in January 2003. (Cantor later asked the deli to switch his namesake sandwich from tuna to roast beef on challah, "a deli special that exudes Jewish power," wrote the Jewish newspaper the Forward.)
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I don't think there is any way Obama will pick a woman other than Hillary. He still has a left of Hillary supporters who aren't on his side yet and may vote for McCain, and picking a woman would probably only make it worse.

And I disagree that he doesn't need to pick someone with foreign policy/defense experience. I think he desperately needs that.
Again, this is a misnomer. He needs to do nothing of the sort. He has displayed he has the judgment to lead on foreign policy/defense and that he has top notch foreign policy advisors ready to be part of his team.

As far as the whole he can't pick a woman thing, not true. The woman that he CANNOT pick is Hillary Clinton. She does not represent what he is hoping to bring. She was a great Presidential Candidate, but their ways of governing are profoundly different, and she does not represent what he is looking for in a VP.

I can't help but notice you are on the Straight Talk Express. It's no surprise you think he needs someone strong on Defense (which would then be manipulated in the Fall tv ads..."He is not strong on Defense so he picks someone who is...but hes the Commander in Chief...Ready to Lead?" and geez the Republicans have wanted Hillary in this in some way shape or form forever because of the enormous amount of partisan baggage she brings with her. It's not going to happen.

Obama's VP pick will not have anything to do with whether they have a penis or a vagina, it will have to do with if they meet his criteria to assume his type of leadership in DC should something happen to him.
And that's what it SHOULD represent.
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Veepstakes: A New Name
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Updated: 12:40 PM ET Aug 2, 2008

The "shortlist" of options to be Barack Obama's running mate is longer than most media accounts have suggested. In addition to the familiar front runners—Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine—there are at least two other veepstakes contenders: New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who enraged Hillary Clinton supporters by endorsing Obama during the primaries, and a genuine dark horse, Texas Rep. Chet Edwards, whose district includes President George W. Bush's ranch in Crawford. Obama's campaign had hoped to announce his pick this week to grab the spotlight before the Beijing Olympics. But now a decision is unlikely to come until the week before the party convention, which begins in Denver on Aug. 25. According to party sources close to the selection process, who asked not to be identified discussing an internal matter, progress was slowed by Obama's overseas trip—and because his list is more fluid than generally thought. Edwards, 56, has been pushed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other congressional Democrats who cite his work on veterans' affairs and nuclear nonproliferation, as well as his potential to attract Southern white blue-collar voters. Pelosi has called Edwards "one of the finest people I've ever served with." His stock rose further, one source said, after a meeting with Obama, though his low national profile remains a hurdle.

In fact, Obama aides have identified potential drawbacks to all the front runners. Biden brings foreign-policy expertise, but there are lingering concerns that his garrulous tendencies might knock the campaign off message. Bayh, who the sources say has been lobbying hard for the nod, brings solid centrist credentials. (An aide says Bayh is not "actively" pursuing the job.) But his wife serves on numerous corporate boards, and she also previously worked as a lawyer for drug giant Eli Lilly—an inconvenient link for a party committed to health-care reform. Kaine is seen as a "change" candidate, but he has no national-security experience. Clinton remains a possibility, but her chances are seen as remote, if only because of the near impossibility of vetting her husband's business affairs.
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Old 08-04-2008, 10:22 AM   #142
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^ I guess we can forget about exciting VPs. No Romney, no Jindal, no Biden... looks like we might get a couple of basically unknown congressmen.

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I don't think there's any "silver-bullet" VP for either McCain or Obama, there doesn't seem to be a single perfect choice, which is probably why this process is taking so long.
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Senator Obama will be in Indiana on Wednesday.

I think highly enough of our senator that I would support a Bayh/Obama ticket, but that's not how the ballot will read this Fall.
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I think highly enough of our senator that I would support a Bayh/Obama ticket, but that's not how the ballot will read this Fall.


what do you like about Bayh?

i don't know much about him.
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I don't think there's any "silver-bullet" VP for either McCain or Obama
Obama has one.

McCain does not.
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what do you like about Bayh?

i don't know much about him.
He, like Obama, is a wonderful family man (married to a woman ) and just a decent, caring, fiscally responsible public servant. He's grounded in traditional Midwest values (list available upon demand) and is actually more conservative than several Republican senators. He's not perfect, I was disappointed by his votes on recent Supreme Court nominees but I've always voted for him as both governor of Indiana and as our senator.
Just don't tell anybody that.

He may get in trouble over his Iraq vote as well as with far-left groups like NARAL and Moveon, but I think if the Obama campaign and Democrats wants to win in the Fall than Bayh helps his chances greatly.

I wish McCain would pick him.
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Lookin alot like Obama/Bayh



This is breaking all over the blogosphere right now...mine included but in a nutshell, Bill Browning over at Bilerico.com makes a compelling argument that Obama wil announce his selection of Bayh this Wednesday.

To me, the smoking gun is the URL: http://www.obamabayh08.com , which has now started re-directing to the DNC's website!

I'll like this ticket, I approve of Bayh. Only he other than Sebelius really get my support. Should be interesting...
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^ Not a bad strategic choice. As of right now, Indiana is the flip of a coin. However, he supported the war in Iraq and voted for the Patriot Act in 2006, both of which may anger some Democrats.
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What's the alternative? They'll take what they can get, if he's Obama's pick.

It would almost certainly guarantee Obama a win in Indiana; hard to say how much those 11 Electoral College votes would matter though, and Bayh doesn't seem to have much name recognition nationally (yet). He's certainly not lacking on the 'experience' front, is squeaky-clean and has consistently been very popular across the spectrum in Indiana throughout his career as governor and Senator.
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