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Old 10-02-2008, 10:38 PM   #181
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Ramble irrelevantly without substance!


Seriously, I can't see how anybody could even call that debate close. Biden had substance and knowledge. Palin was, most of the time, clueless. That was nothing short of a mismatch.
It's different if you're not American, honestly.

But it isn't irrelevant that the world outside America seems to strongly favor Obama.
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I am SO impressed with Biden tonight.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:38 PM   #183
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:39 PM   #184
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:39 PM   #185
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See, we "fundamentally disagree" on this. It's pretty lame to say that she "won" simply because she beat the expectation that she'd sound like a moron.
I don't vote in your election.

It is lame that your country would have someone running for office that can 'win' a debate by not making herself look like an idiot.

But i'm sure you feel the same way!
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Seriously, I can't see how anybody could even call that debate close. Biden had substance and knowledge. Palin was, most of the time, clueless. That was nothing short of a mismatch.
Holy shit. Biden whooped her.

I predict the TV networks are going to be afraid to admit how much of a slaughter this debate was.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:39 PM   #187
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First third: Even
Second third: Slight Biden Advantage
Final Third: Strong Biden Advantage
My friend and HUGE Obama supporter scored it in five parts...

1. Palin
2. Biden
3. Even (Tie)
4. Biden (almost tie)
5. Biden

He also was a little shocked (as was I) that this was NOT the Palin of the interviews.
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"We have not got to allow..."

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Old 10-02-2008, 10:41 PM   #189
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Biden was excellent and I was never his biggest fan. He was great.

Palin - I hope she goes back to Alaska and I never have to hear from her again. That's all I'm going to say because it is plainly obvious what we are dealing with here.

My heart tells me this election is over. And I say that knowing full well I'll have Sting quote it back ad nauseum. But it's the truth.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:42 PM   #190
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I think Biden was the aggressor throughout most of the debate, calling out Palin for dodging answers and such, but he attacked McCain a little too much early and referred to his credentials too much during specific sections. Palin succeeded because she could string together coherent sentences for longer than 5 minutes. When she speaks about the American people, she knows what she's talking about, but her whole "I'm not answered the question, I'm straight talking America like only a Maverick does" deal really bothers me. They both did well, I would say, but found myself supporting Biden about 95% of the time.

There can't be two Mavericks... one's gotta be Goose.
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I made the mistake of watching this on MSNBC and not switching the channel immediately afterwards.

Pat Buchanan just said Palin "wiped the floor." WTF? Oh, well, it is Pat Buchanan.
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He also was a little shocked (as was I) that this was NOT the Palin of the interviews.
Honestly, what's shocking about it? It's a completely different format, we already know she's done relatively well in Gubernatorial debates in the past, and she's been very heavily coached this past week. It's not surprising at all.

She performed just as I said earlier she would - adequately.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:43 PM   #193
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Holy shit. Biden whooped her.

I predict the TV networks are going to be afraid to admit how much of a slaughter this debate was.
Not even close. Yes, Biden won but it was no slaughter that's for sure. My friend who works for Obama in New York and basically cannot stand Palin said he was a little shocked that she seemed to hold her own. He did add however that if it was on issues and issues alone then Palin lost bigtime (how couldn't she) but stated that it's unfortunately not always about the issues.
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I think she gave Tina Fey a lot of ammunition with the winking and the overt folksiness though.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:45 PM   #195
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She was good enough, he was better.
It doesn't really matter though.

No big gaffes by her, no bullying or blowharding by him.

I doubt her perceived ineptitude is going to matter to 'feely' voters.
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