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Old 11-05-2008, 09:45 AM   #76
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The fact that Alaska re-elected a CONVICTED FELON really tells you all you need to know. Humiliating.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:46 AM   #77
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The fact that Alaska re-elected a CONVICTED FELON really tells you all you need to know. Humiliating.
seriously.. this says a lot..
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:50 AM   #78
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They reelected Ted Stevens? Wow
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:53 AM   #79
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I fell in and out of sleep, the last I remember Obama had 100 something and McCain had 40 something. I woke up just in time for his speech, and I'm so glad that I did. I shed a few tears after that. I'm proud today.

Same with me.. I briefly woke up at 3 a.m. when it was sth like 170:70

half sleeping I remember thinking: hmm looks ok so lets sleep some more

at 6 a.m. I wake up, put the volume on the mixer up, what do I hear? 100.000 people cheering, freaking out. Holy shit. I didn´t have time to roll one and the speech just started. MSNBC live. Then I rolled another one, watched the comments for an hour and went to work.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:55 AM   #80
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City Of Blinding Lights sounds so sweet today!

And so does The Rising, Beautiful Day and other uplifting anthems.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:55 AM   #81
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:55 AM   #82
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I went to bed after they called Ohio. I pretty much expected it to be over.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:56 AM   #83
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DC was amazing last night. i've never seen anything like it.

thousands of people stood outside the white house, and it was often sung, "nah-nah-nah-nah, way-aye-hey, GOOD BYE!"
You think Bush heard this? Maybe he couldn´t sleep
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:57 AM   #84
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My anthem of the day

YouTube - Primal Scream - Come Together (audio only)
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:07 AM   #85
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The fact that Alaska re-elected a CONVICTED FELON really tells you all you need to know. Humiliating.
Not surprised, actually. I think Alaskans are hoping that he steps down now so that they can put another Republican in his place. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if there was a deal behind the scenes already.

And if that happens, we all know who gets to pick, and I wouldn't be shocked if she picked herself.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:08 AM   #86
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US President George W. Bush late Tuesday telephoned his apparent successor, Democrat Barack Obama, to congratulate him on his "awesome night," according to White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

"Mr President-elect, congratulations to you. What an awesome night for you, your family and your supporters. Laura and I called to congratulate you and your good bride," she quoted Bush as telling Obama.

"I promise to make this a smooth transition. You are about to go on one of the great journeys of life. Congratulations and go enjoy yourself," Bush told Obama, she said.

The president also invited Obama and his family "to visit the White House soon, at their convenience," Perino said.

Bush was also to reach out to Obama's defeated rival, Republican John McCain, who conceded the fight shortly after 11:00 pm (0400 GMT).
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:12 AM   #87
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A shame he didn't conduct his campaign the same way he delivered that speech. If he had, he may never have had to concede.
I agree. I was very, very impressed with McCain's concession speech. It reminded me why I used to like him.

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Ok, Obama won and history was made.........what now?

When the euphoria of the election fades away, the world will still be the same as it was yesterday - Iran is still threatening the west (and my country above all), the Russian bear has woken up, the world's economy is in a shambles, there are millions of starving people in America and the world, global warming is still a real threat to the planet.......and so on (none of these are Bush's fault by the way).
I'll bite.

I would say that some—but not all—of the policies enacted during the Bush years led to the economic crisis.

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America (and the free world) needs a strong leader - not only to tackle domestic problems at home but also to lead a very strong foreign policy that will show the bad guys who's boss (like Bush did).
When someone show's who's boss, he's usually able to control things from that point on. This by far has not been the case since 2001. What has changed? As you said, Iran is still threatening, Russia has woken up, etc. So why aren't they in the corner of the room, cowering with fear of what the "boss" Bush will do to them? Because they are no longer afraid of American power and might, due to the fact that the U.S. has lost much of its support in the world due to Bush's unilateralism.

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Outgoing President Bush was one of the best presidents the United States ever had (am I the only person in the world who believes this?) and, truth be told, he will be SORELY missed (although not by the terrorists I'm sure.....).
I would argue that he will be missed by terrorists. Bush and his policies was the best recruiting tool that the terrorists ever had. And as far as being one of the best Presidents ever? Surely millions of celebrating people the world over can't be wrong. In fact, you are the one that's wrong.

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So, good luck America and I wish President-Elect Obama all the luck in the world - he's DEFINITELY going to need it.
This is the one true statement you've made. I believe that Obama will be able—as opposed to Bush—to rally people around him. It will be a long and arduous road, but together...yes we can!!
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Coleman leads Al Franken in Minn. Senate race

By PATRICK CONDON, Associated Press Writer Patrick Condon, Associated Press Writer 3 mins ago

MINNEAPOLIS – Republican Norm Coleman leads Democrat Al Franken in one of Minnesota's tightest Senate elections ever by a margin that appears certain to trigger a recount.

With the unofficial vote tally complete, Coleman led Franken by 571 votes out of nearly 2.9 million cast. Coleman had 1,210,942 votes, or 42.03 percent, to Franken's 1,210,371 votes, or 42.01 percent.

Dean Barkley of the Independence Party was third with 15 percent, and exit poll data showed him pulling about equally from Coleman and Franken.

The margin was well within a threshold set by state law for an automatic recount that could drag into December. If it holds up, Coleman would be among the fortunate Republicans who survived big gains by Democrats nationwide.

"The senator is thrilled and humbled to be given the opportunity to serve the people of Minnesota for another six years," campaign manager Cullen Sheehan said in a statement.

"Today is a time for us to come together as a state and a nation. There is much work to be done, and the senator is ready to roll-up his sleeves and bring people together to get it done."

Franken said he would await a recount. He said his campaign was already looking into reports of irregularities in Minneapolis where some voters had trouble registering, though he wouldn't elaborate.

"We won't know for a little while who won the race, but at the end of the day we will know the voice of the electorate is clearly heard," Franken said. "This has been a long campaign, but it is going to be a little longer before we have a winner."

Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat, said a recount wouldn't begin until mid-November at the earliest and would probably stretch into December. It would involve local election officials from around the state.

"No matter how fast people would like it, the emphasis is on accuracy," Ritchie said.

Ritchie's office ran a speedy recount in September of a close primary race for a Supreme Court seat. That took just three days, but Ritchie said the Senate race is entirely different.

"Having a ton of lawyers and other partisans injected into the process, that will change the dynamics of it," Ritchie said.

Exit polls showed that Franken held a big lead in Minneapolis and St. Paul, and a smaller lead in eastern parts of the state. Coleman ran stronger in Twin Cities suburbs and western Minnesota.

Coleman's bid for a second term came against a strong Democratic headwind nationwide, led by Barack Obama's big presidential victory. Several of Coleman's fellow Senate Republicans were overwhelmed, with the GOP losing Senate seats in Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Colorado.

The photo finish in Minnesota's Senate race came after months of intense campaigning and millions of dollars in ad spending.

Coleman and Franken each arrived at Election Day with a shot at winning. The pair traded narrow leads in the last few polls, with Barkley well back but a wild card.

In the campaign's last days, Coleman was forced to respond to allegations in a Texas civil lawsuit that a donor and friend tried to funnel him $75,000. Win or lose, Coleman was likely to face continuing fallout from the allegations, which he denied.

For Franken, who made his name as a writer and performer on "Saturday Night Live," the election was a referendum on 21 months spent trying to convince voters he had the stuff of a U.S. senator.

The candidates spent $30 million attacking each other on the airwaves. Millions more poured into the race from the national parties and outside groups, leaving both men with high negatives in voters' eyes.

Coleman portrayed himself as a pragmatist and a moderate who could get things done in Washington, and his stump speeches were filled with references to "reaching across the aisle."

He characterized Franken as angry and unfit for public office, and hammered Franken for outrageous jokes and statements from his career as an author and satirist. Coleman also played up Franken's blunders in filing his personal income taxes.

Franken's path to Election Day began in February 2007, when he announced his candidacy live on his Air America radio show.

His celebrity profile and ability to raise cash made him a formidable opponent, and Franken vowed to win back a seat once held by the late Paul Wellstone. Franken promised to fight for the middle class, and criticized Coleman as too closely aligned with President Bush and special interests.

But Coleman led comfortably until late summer and early fall, when polls began to show Franken closing the gap. One poll showed a majority of voters thought ads attacking Franken were unfair; Coleman later announced he was dropping negative ads.

Franken also appeared to benefit from the public's unhappiness over the Wall Street bailout legislation. Coleman supported the bill, and Franken said he would have opposed it.

Minnesota's most notable election recount came in 1962, when DFLer Karl Rolvaag edged Republican Elmer Andersen by 91 votes — the closest governor's race ever in Minnesota.
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Ok, Obama won and history was made.........what now?
Accountability and no more treating Israel like it's the President's own personal charity ?

OF COURSE you're going to think that way about Bush, you're the biggest beneficiary of his terms, you didn't have to live under him !
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:19 AM   #90
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Wow, wow, wow, what a night!

I was seeing Bob Dylan on campus (his first return to the University of Minnesota since he left back in the '50s), and my sister was sending me text updates the whole night. Dylan came back on for the encore and started playing "Blowin' in the Wind," and that's when I got the text from my sister. All it said: "IT'S OVER!!! OBAMA!!!" I teared up immediately. After the concert was finished, most of the auditorium didn't know the result, so we all poured into the lobby, where CNN was on a huge projection screen and the whole place erupted in cheers. Someone outside had a bongo drum, and hundreds of people danced and cheered outside of the auditorium for a long time celebrating.

I still can't properly express the pride and joy that I felt last night and am still feeling today. Knowing that I had a part in electing someone who I felt so deeply about and making history is an amazing feeling!

I can honestly say that I'm so proud to be an American today, and I haven't been able to say that in far too long...
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