U2isthebest
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Not surprising. They've been predicting this for awhile. I don't know a lot about him, but from what I've heard he could do a good job.
2008 U.S. Presidential Campaign Discussion Thread 13: Victory Lap
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Not surprising. They've been predicting this for awhile. I don't know a lot about him, but from what I've heard he could do a good job.
Irvine511
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20th century go to sleep.
baby boom, it's no longer only about you.
the 21st century begins now.
baby boom, it's no longer only about you.
the 21st century begins now.
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Speaking as a person on the very youngest edge of the baby boom, I can only say "Thank God!"
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No, he really wasn't. They weren't celebrating in the streets when GWB won. May the phenomenom that was GWB/Cheney never again happen to the US.
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All the baby boomers I know - which is a LOT - voted for Obama and have always been for gay equality. 
Irvine511
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DC was amazing last night. i've never seen anything like it.
thousands of people stood outside the white house, and it was often sung, "nah-nah-nah-nah, way-aye-hey, GOOD BYE!"
thousands of people stood outside the white house, and it was often sung, "nah-nah-nah-nah, way-aye-hey, GOOD BYE!"
U2isthebest
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in 2000 and this
in 2004.
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All the baby boomers I know - which is a LOT - voted for Obama and have always been for gay equality.
i'm just talking about the generational fixation over the lines that were drawn up in 1968 over Vietnam. it's dominated politics since then, and i'm glad we're going to move into an era where it's much less us vs. them. to me, that's what Obama's candidacy has been about from the beginning.
U2isthebest
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I would have loved to have been in Grant Park or D.C. last night. Those were the real happiest places on earth. There was an awesome sign they showed on CNN from one of the Georgetown students that said "Why Wait? Evict Bush now!"
MrsSpringsteen
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It's going to be a awfully long wait. Couldn't W just volunteer to leave now?
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hiphop
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You´re not the only one - Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney think so too.
Who´s gonna miss Bush except of you? Not so many folks.. oh wait, he will be missed by Shell, Exxon, Honeywell and Lockheed Martin!
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being an american, I was truly embarrassed to have Bush as president, having lived thru all his fuck ups. He was one of the worse presidents ever that I can remember. And I think most of america can agree just look at his approval rating, hardly the best president.
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seriously.. this says a lot..
MrsSpringsteen
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They reelected Ted Stevens? Wow
hiphop
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Same with me.. I briefly woke up at 3 a.m. when it was sth like 170:70
half sleeping I remember thinking: hmm looks ok so lets sleep some more
at 6 a.m. I wake up, put the volume on the mixer up, what do I hear? 100.000 people cheering, freaking out. Holy shit. I didn´t have time to roll one and the speech just started. MSNBC live. Then I rolled another one, watched the comments for an hour and went to work.
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City Of Blinding Lights sounds so sweet today!
And so does The Rising, Beautiful Day and other uplifting anthems.
And so does The Rising, Beautiful Day and other uplifting anthems.
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DrTeeth
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I went to bed after they called Ohio. I pretty much expected it to be over.
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Not surprised, actually. I think Alaskans are hoping that he steps down now so that they can put another Republican in his place. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if there was a deal behind the scenes already.
And if that happens, we all know who gets to pick, and I wouldn't be shocked if she picked herself.
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US President George W. Bush late Tuesday telephoned his apparent successor, Democrat Barack Obama, to congratulate him on his "awesome night," according to White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.
"Mr President-elect, congratulations to you. What an awesome night for you, your family and your supporters. Laura and I called to congratulate you and your good bride," she quoted Bush as telling Obama.
"I promise to make this a smooth transition. You are about to go on one of the great journeys of life. Congratulations and go enjoy yourself," Bush told Obama, she said.
The president also invited Obama and his family "to visit the White House soon, at their convenience," Perino said.
Bush was also to reach out to Obama's defeated rival, Republican John McCain, who conceded the fight shortly after 11:00 pm (0400 GMT).
"Mr President-elect, congratulations to you. What an awesome night for you, your family and your supporters. Laura and I called to congratulate you and your good bride," she quoted Bush as telling Obama.
"I promise to make this a smooth transition. You are about to go on one of the great journeys of life. Congratulations and go enjoy yourself," Bush told Obama, she said.
The president also invited Obama and his family "to visit the White House soon, at their convenience," Perino said.
Bush was also to reach out to Obama's defeated rival, Republican John McCain, who conceded the fight shortly after 11:00 pm (0400 GMT).
BoMac
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What is that?
I agree. I was very, very impressed with McCain's concession speech. It reminded me why I used to like him.
I'll bite. I would say that some—but not all—of the policies enacted during the Bush years led to the economic crisis.
When someone show's who's boss, he's usually able to control things from that point on. This by far has not been the case since 2001. What has changed? As you said, Iran is still threatening, Russia has woken up, etc. So why aren't they in the corner of the room, cowering with fear of what the "boss" Bush will do to them? Because they are no longer afraid of American power and might, due to the fact that the U.S. has lost much of its support in the world due to Bush's unilateralism.
I would argue that he will be missed by terrorists. Bush and his policies was the best recruiting tool that the terrorists ever had. And as far as being one of the best Presidents ever? Surely millions of celebrating people the world over can't be wrong. In fact, you are the one that's wrong.
This is the one true statement you've made. I believe that Obama will be able—as opposed to Bush—to rally people around him. It will be a long and arduous road, but together...yes we can!!
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Coleman leads Al Franken in Minn. Senate race
By PATRICK CONDON, Associated Press Writer Patrick Condon, Associated Press Writer 3 mins ago
MINNEAPOLIS – Republican Norm Coleman leads Democrat Al Franken in one of Minnesota's tightest Senate elections ever by a margin that appears certain to trigger a recount.
With the unofficial vote tally complete, Coleman led Franken by 571 votes out of nearly 2.9 million cast. Coleman had 1,210,942 votes, or 42.03 percent, to Franken's 1,210,371 votes, or 42.01 percent.
Dean Barkley of the Independence Party was third with 15 percent, and exit poll data showed him pulling about equally from Coleman and Franken.
The margin was well within a threshold set by state law for an automatic recount that could drag into December. If it holds up, Coleman would be among the fortunate Republicans who survived big gains by Democrats nationwide.
"The senator is thrilled and humbled to be given the opportunity to serve the people of Minnesota for another six years," campaign manager Cullen Sheehan said in a statement.
"Today is a time for us to come together as a state and a nation. There is much work to be done, and the senator is ready to roll-up his sleeves and bring people together to get it done."
Franken said he would await a recount. He said his campaign was already looking into reports of irregularities in Minneapolis where some voters had trouble registering, though he wouldn't elaborate.
"We won't know for a little while who won the race, but at the end of the day we will know the voice of the electorate is clearly heard," Franken said. "This has been a long campaign, but it is going to be a little longer before we have a winner."
Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat, said a recount wouldn't begin until mid-November at the earliest and would probably stretch into December. It would involve local election officials from around the state.
"No matter how fast people would like it, the emphasis is on accuracy," Ritchie said.
Ritchie's office ran a speedy recount in September of a close primary race for a Supreme Court seat. That took just three days, but Ritchie said the Senate race is entirely different.
"Having a ton of lawyers and other partisans injected into the process, that will change the dynamics of it," Ritchie said.
Exit polls showed that Franken held a big lead in Minneapolis and St. Paul, and a smaller lead in eastern parts of the state. Coleman ran stronger in Twin Cities suburbs and western Minnesota.
Coleman's bid for a second term came against a strong Democratic headwind nationwide, led by Barack Obama's big presidential victory. Several of Coleman's fellow Senate Republicans were overwhelmed, with the GOP losing Senate seats in Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Colorado.
The photo finish in Minnesota's Senate race came after months of intense campaigning and millions of dollars in ad spending.
Coleman and Franken each arrived at Election Day with a shot at winning. The pair traded narrow leads in the last few polls, with Barkley well back but a wild card.
In the campaign's last days, Coleman was forced to respond to allegations in a Texas civil lawsuit that a donor and friend tried to funnel him $75,000. Win or lose, Coleman was likely to face continuing fallout from the allegations, which he denied.
For Franken, who made his name as a writer and performer on "Saturday Night Live," the election was a referendum on 21 months spent trying to convince voters he had the stuff of a U.S. senator.
The candidates spent $30 million attacking each other on the airwaves. Millions more poured into the race from the national parties and outside groups, leaving both men with high negatives in voters' eyes.
Coleman portrayed himself as a pragmatist and a moderate who could get things done in Washington, and his stump speeches were filled with references to "reaching across the aisle."
He characterized Franken as angry and unfit for public office, and hammered Franken for outrageous jokes and statements from his career as an author and satirist. Coleman also played up Franken's blunders in filing his personal income taxes.
Franken's path to Election Day began in February 2007, when he announced his candidacy live on his Air America radio show.
His celebrity profile and ability to raise cash made him a formidable opponent, and Franken vowed to win back a seat once held by the late Paul Wellstone. Franken promised to fight for the middle class, and criticized Coleman as too closely aligned with President Bush and special interests.
But Coleman led comfortably until late summer and early fall, when polls began to show Franken closing the gap. One poll showed a majority of voters thought ads attacking Franken were unfair; Coleman later announced he was dropping negative ads.
Franken also appeared to benefit from the public's unhappiness over the Wall Street bailout legislation. Coleman supported the bill, and Franken said he would have opposed it.
Minnesota's most notable election recount came in 1962, when DFLer Karl Rolvaag edged Republican Elmer Andersen by 91 votes — the closest governor's race ever in Minnesota.
By PATRICK CONDON, Associated Press Writer Patrick Condon, Associated Press Writer 3 mins ago
MINNEAPOLIS – Republican Norm Coleman leads Democrat Al Franken in one of Minnesota's tightest Senate elections ever by a margin that appears certain to trigger a recount.
With the unofficial vote tally complete, Coleman led Franken by 571 votes out of nearly 2.9 million cast. Coleman had 1,210,942 votes, or 42.03 percent, to Franken's 1,210,371 votes, or 42.01 percent.
Dean Barkley of the Independence Party was third with 15 percent, and exit poll data showed him pulling about equally from Coleman and Franken.
The margin was well within a threshold set by state law for an automatic recount that could drag into December. If it holds up, Coleman would be among the fortunate Republicans who survived big gains by Democrats nationwide.
"The senator is thrilled and humbled to be given the opportunity to serve the people of Minnesota for another six years," campaign manager Cullen Sheehan said in a statement.
"Today is a time for us to come together as a state and a nation. There is much work to be done, and the senator is ready to roll-up his sleeves and bring people together to get it done."
Franken said he would await a recount. He said his campaign was already looking into reports of irregularities in Minneapolis where some voters had trouble registering, though he wouldn't elaborate.
"We won't know for a little while who won the race, but at the end of the day we will know the voice of the electorate is clearly heard," Franken said. "This has been a long campaign, but it is going to be a little longer before we have a winner."
Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat, said a recount wouldn't begin until mid-November at the earliest and would probably stretch into December. It would involve local election officials from around the state.
"No matter how fast people would like it, the emphasis is on accuracy," Ritchie said.
Ritchie's office ran a speedy recount in September of a close primary race for a Supreme Court seat. That took just three days, but Ritchie said the Senate race is entirely different.
"Having a ton of lawyers and other partisans injected into the process, that will change the dynamics of it," Ritchie said.
Exit polls showed that Franken held a big lead in Minneapolis and St. Paul, and a smaller lead in eastern parts of the state. Coleman ran stronger in Twin Cities suburbs and western Minnesota.
Coleman's bid for a second term came against a strong Democratic headwind nationwide, led by Barack Obama's big presidential victory. Several of Coleman's fellow Senate Republicans were overwhelmed, with the GOP losing Senate seats in Virginia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Colorado.
The photo finish in Minnesota's Senate race came after months of intense campaigning and millions of dollars in ad spending.
Coleman and Franken each arrived at Election Day with a shot at winning. The pair traded narrow leads in the last few polls, with Barkley well back but a wild card.
In the campaign's last days, Coleman was forced to respond to allegations in a Texas civil lawsuit that a donor and friend tried to funnel him $75,000. Win or lose, Coleman was likely to face continuing fallout from the allegations, which he denied.
For Franken, who made his name as a writer and performer on "Saturday Night Live," the election was a referendum on 21 months spent trying to convince voters he had the stuff of a U.S. senator.
The candidates spent $30 million attacking each other on the airwaves. Millions more poured into the race from the national parties and outside groups, leaving both men with high negatives in voters' eyes.
Coleman portrayed himself as a pragmatist and a moderate who could get things done in Washington, and his stump speeches were filled with references to "reaching across the aisle."
He characterized Franken as angry and unfit for public office, and hammered Franken for outrageous jokes and statements from his career as an author and satirist. Coleman also played up Franken's blunders in filing his personal income taxes.
Franken's path to Election Day began in February 2007, when he announced his candidacy live on his Air America radio show.
His celebrity profile and ability to raise cash made him a formidable opponent, and Franken vowed to win back a seat once held by the late Paul Wellstone. Franken promised to fight for the middle class, and criticized Coleman as too closely aligned with President Bush and special interests.
But Coleman led comfortably until late summer and early fall, when polls began to show Franken closing the gap. One poll showed a majority of voters thought ads attacking Franken were unfair; Coleman later announced he was dropping negative ads.
Franken also appeared to benefit from the public's unhappiness over the Wall Street bailout legislation. Coleman supported the bill, and Franken said he would have opposed it.
Minnesota's most notable election recount came in 1962, when DFLer Karl Rolvaag edged Republican Elmer Andersen by 91 votes — the closest governor's race ever in Minnesota.
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Accountability and no more treating Israel like it's the President's own personal charity ?
OF COURSE you're going to think that way about Bush, you're the biggest beneficiary of his terms, you didn't have to live under him !
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Wow, wow, wow, what a night!
I was seeing Bob Dylan on campus (his first return to the University of Minnesota since he left back in the '50s), and my sister was sending me text updates the whole night. Dylan came back on for the encore and started playing "Blowin' in the Wind," and that's when I got the text from my sister. All it said: "IT'S OVER!!! OBAMA!!!" I teared up immediately. After the concert was finished, most of the auditorium didn't know the result, so we all poured into the lobby, where CNN was on a huge projection screen and the whole place erupted in cheers. Someone outside had a bongo drum, and hundreds of people danced and cheered outside of the auditorium for a long time celebrating.
I still can't properly express the pride and joy that I felt last night and am still feeling today. Knowing that I had a part in electing someone who I felt so deeply about and making history is an amazing feeling!
I can honestly say that I'm so proud to be an American today, and I haven't been able to say that in far too long...
I was seeing Bob Dylan on campus (his first return to the University of Minnesota since he left back in the '50s), and my sister was sending me text updates the whole night. Dylan came back on for the encore and started playing "Blowin' in the Wind," and that's when I got the text from my sister. All it said: "IT'S OVER!!! OBAMA!!!" I teared up immediately. After the concert was finished, most of the auditorium didn't know the result, so we all poured into the lobby, where CNN was on a huge projection screen and the whole place erupted in cheers. Someone outside had a bongo drum, and hundreds of people danced and cheered outside of the auditorium for a long time celebrating.
I still can't properly express the pride and joy that I felt last night and am still feeling today. Knowing that I had a part in electing someone who I felt so deeply about and making history is an amazing feeling!
I can honestly say that I'm so proud to be an American today, and I haven't been able to say that in far too long...
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