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Old 11-05-2008, 07:26 PM   #331
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No, please don't go on.

Take a deep breath and back off from this shrill stereotyping of each other's entire parties, guys. Please. It's not going to make anyone's 'victory' sweeter, nor anyone's 'defeat' less depressing.
Well, personally, I am not engaged in the stereotyping of anyone's party as such, I am engaged in the much more important task of rescuing the very heart and soul of conservatism (my life's work)

But still, point taken.

Although I have to say under the circumstances I would see it as considerably unfair to impose a penalty on Martha, given the provocation.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:26 PM   #332
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He is offensive. And if I have to take one for the team, I will.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:27 PM   #333
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Michelle Obama's dress last night was Narciso Rodriguez Spring 09 ready to wear

She always looks so pretty

That's all
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:28 PM   #334
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I really didn't like the dress. But she looked awesome despite the dress.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:29 PM   #335
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Although I have to say under the circumstances I would see it as considerably unfair to impose a penalty on Martha, given the provocation.
Thank you.

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What annoys me about this kind of nonsense is that it feeds into stereotypes about conservatives being unintelligent bigots, etc.

Basically, moderate conservatives like me end up carrying the can for liars, propagandists and complete bullshit artists such as you.

It's because of people like you that it's so hard to get the conservative perspective allotted a fair hearing on here.

Tosser.
And then I agree with you?

Cats and dogs living together indeed.
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Now that I don't have to listen to her talk, can I just say that I'd like to bend Sarah Palin over a dead moose carcass.

Drill, baby, drill
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I really didn't like the dress.
Me neither. But fashion and nerdiness don't go together.
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I really didn't like the dress. But she looked awesome despite the dress.
Not one of my faves of hers but she wears everything so well and she did look awesome. I love how her daughters' dresses were color coordinated. I love them too, they're adorable. They're getting a puppy, Ellen gave them a White House doghouse.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:49 PM   #340
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for a non-incumbent, for a black man to win Virginia and likely North Carolina, to turn bluer states blue and turn red states more purple, for a man with a muslim name, for the democratic gains in the house and the senate, for a candidate running in what is still a very polarized country, yes, this was indeed a TSUNAMI.

the voters rejected John McCain and George W. Bush and the entire past 8 years. it has been a clear, decisive rebuke of the GOP, and especially Bush, and especially Iraq, who have been shattered as a party by Barack Obama.

don't let anyone fool you into thinking it was only about the stock market. it was about how each man *handled* the crisis, and how Obama destroyed John McCain in all three debates, and the foolish pick of Sarah Palin, easily the least prepared candidate on a ticket in modern political history. McCain disqualified himself with that single action, and this man who so many worshiped as some sort of apolitical masculine military ideal was revealed to be nothing more than a partisian political hack.

the GOP has been thoroughly trounced, embarrassed, and defeated. the monsters who have been in charge since 1994 have been vanquished.
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:59 PM   #341
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By a much bigger margin
and with Obama as her V P.
Why do you say that?

I have the utmost respect for her and feel that she would have been a great president. I respect what Bill Clinton did politically and wish his presidency never ended. However, there is a huge divide between the GOP and Bill Clinton and it would have carried on. I think we would have been headed for a presidency full of jokes and scandals pushed at the media by the GOP because of Bill Clinton's past. It just wouldn't have worked.

Obama is the change needed to hopefully bridge the parties together. I voted for him by a narrow decision in the primaries because I truly respect Hillary, but she just wouldn't have been the right choice to take over after Bush/Clinton/Bush.
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Here's another one that got me very close:

College undergraduate checking in.

Just watched everything unfold with a group of 12 or so others. As soon as it became clear that Obama was, indeed, going to win, we swarmed the streets--screaming, chanting, hugging, crying--along with hundreds (at least) of other students. For most of us, this was our first time voting in an election; many of us were still in middle school when the twin towers fell. We've had a lot on our minds since then. I have it easy, and I've still been worrying about how I'm going to get a job in this economy when I graduate; whether my friends are going to end up in (or get out of) Iraq; if my best friend, who is gay, is going to be able to marry; whether I'm going to be protected, mental illnesses and all; whether I'm going to be in this all together with the world, whether one day I'm going to be able to truly believe in my government and actually feel proud to say that, yes, I am from the United States of America.

As someone who has cringed at the red, white, and blue which I have long associated with corruption and bigotry--my mind is blown. This is my generation. This was my very first time voting and I did something. WE did something. We informed ourselves; we got ourselves to the polls; we did something. And it felt good. It felt so goddamn good.

Watching Obama's speech, with all of us crying--and my best friend, in the middle of that, just smiling and saying aloud, "I'm going to get married"--and my other friend, sobbing because who would have ever thought, and if only his dad could be there tonight--and me, just blending in, holding hands, silently crying and watching it all because it is bigger than I ever imagined--because the problems we face are bigger than I can fathom--but for once, for once I feel hope and pride. I feel empowered.

I will never, ever miss another election. I've seen the power and meaning of one. And it delights me--and inspires me--to know that I am not the only young person to feel this way. Welcome, 21st century. The world won't change tomorrow, but it's going to change. And I think we can change it for the better.

I feel good tonight.
That expresses everything I've been feeling as a first-time voter and college student, and it says it much better than I ever could have.

I'll also echo what this person said: For the past 8 years, I've been almost ashamed to admit that I had anything to do with this country's politics, but last night, I was never prouder to be American.

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we finger's crossed..go AL!

Your previous post/lection night experience was great! How moving!

on the reverse-
I was at a Crosby, Stills ,NAs & Young concert the night Nixon resigned! omg...everyone had radios, and I think it was Neil who made the announcemnt!
I have this bizarre feeling that Franken will pull it out. The absentee ballots haven't been counted yet, and even though a majority of those will probably be military voters, Minnesota's troops are usually more Democratic. It's going to be a nerve-wracking week or so until it's finished though.

Thanks! I still don't know what to say, I just wish that everyone could've felt the pure energy and excitement in the air. I've never seen so many people ecstatic for the same reason.

I bet the CSNY concert would've been amazing to see that night! Bob kind of mumbled something before "Blowin' in the Wind," but it was hard to understand. I read this morning that he said, "It looks like things are going to change now." Nobody really heard him though, and that almost made it better because everyone found out as we left the concert.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:51 PM   #343
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My mom's watching Larry King, and Pat Robertson just said Obama is brilliant and has the potential to be one of our greatest presidents. I'm still no fan of Pat, but, wow.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:06 PM   #344
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That expresses everything I've been feeling as a first-time voter and college student, and it says it much better than I ever could have.
same here! my best friend is even gay I watched the election coverage with a group of friends with all of us having voted for the first time in a presidential election...it was amazing. We're all from Indiana, and we all felt like, holy fuck, our votes actually made a difference. I am so proud that Indiana went for Obama.

I have to say what made me truly tear up was when they were showing footage of people celebrating around the world... the idea that the entire world is as happy as I am right now for the same reason is mind-blowing.

I have hope for the future.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:21 PM   #345
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My mom's watching Larry King, and Pat Robertson just said Obama is brilliant and has the potential to be one of our greatest presidents. I'm still no fan of Pat, but, wow.


Was it the real Pat Robertson? Or an imposter?

Or was he smoking reefer?
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