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Old 11-05-2008, 03:31 PM   #166
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"Among the more unusual measures on this year’s ballots was one in Florida that would repeal an old clause in the state constitution that allows legislators to bar Asian immigrants from owning land. The repeal would be symbolic, as equal protection laws would prevent lawmakers from applying the ban. With 78 percent of precincts reporting just before 11 p.m., the vote was close, with 52 percent voting to preserve the clause."


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If it's the will of the people, it doesn't matter who gets fucked over.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:33 PM   #167
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It blows my mind that many Americans are so frightened of universal health care. One of the main arguments against it I've heard is government inefficiency, that the government couldn't be trusted to run it. Well, elect a more efficient government, and hold them accountable.
TRUST THE GUV'MENT!?!?

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

Yeah. We could do that.

Socialism isn't something that should be feared.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:34 PM   #168
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It blows my mind that many Americans are so frightened of universal health care.
Well, in our defense, we didn't know about the free snacks. That is a pretty important detail.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:37 PM   #169
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To join in the chorus....I loved Obama's speech and espeically how he didn't swagger AT ALL.
Instead he reached out and asked for help from the other side...

" I will be your president too" ....doesn't sound like swagger to me....

He could have pulled out the tired line of having political capitol like you know who...but our guy, he's too classy for that. It's called grace!

What a joy this day is!!
That is the one thing I noticed most about last night's speech as well.
Very unique in this day and age. And refreshing.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:44 PM   #170
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what i loved most about last night was that you saw "my" America celebrating in the streets.

young, urban, multicultural, multiracial, gay, straight, rich, poor, and without any time at all for the politics of resentment, anger, fear, or jealousy.

that, my friends, is the "real" America, imho.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:46 PM   #171
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I saw some great footage of the Seattle celebrations on the news earlier, and I teared up yet again. Cheering, hugging, American flags waving .... dang, I wish I lived closer to downtown or the Capitol Hill neighborhood - I would have thrown on my shoes and joined them.

What am amazing sight.

I just read a detailed account of my friend's experience at Grant Park last night, and it was great to read a first-hand account. Got all teary again, damnit.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:48 PM   #172
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Im British and i dont get this. Obama is a politician right ?
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:51 PM   #173
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No, he's a magical wizard.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:51 PM   #174
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what i loved most about last night was that you saw "my" America celebrating in the streets.

young, urban, multicultural, multiracial, gay, straight, rich, poor, and without any time at all for the politics of resentment, anger, fear, or jealousy.

that, my friends, is the "real" America, imho.

I do realize a large portion of America felt the Bush Administration did not care for or represent them.


The trick is to have a President that has broad appeal to all groups.

I feel Bill Clinton was able to appeal to some people in all groups.



Obama has not done this, yet.
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I think Obama should ask McCain to be Sec of Defense. That'd be cool.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:58 PM   #176
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I can't recall such a celebration of a presidential elect. Last night was truly memorable.
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:00 PM   #177
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Actually last night we took a step in fixing what this country has screwed up in the past 8 years. The last 8 years wasn't about hope or action to improve, it was about wrapping ourselves in American flags and pretending we're great and don't need anyone else.
What the left doesn't get is that the rest of the world won't like the U.S. anyways and they want the U.S. superpower status to diminish out of envy. I could of course cross my fingers and see Obama do a surge in Afghanistan and hunt for Bin Laden, but I better not have false hope.

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You really do yourself a disservice when you make these hugely inaccurate generalizations.
I know, conservative generalizations aren't popular here. I should use some Democrat ones. "Yes we did!" When Obama looks at the deficit and how little wiggle room he has it will be "No I didn't yet."

Americans are going to have to learn a lesson. If you want more social programs then you will have to pay for it, because "there's a lot of rich people out there to tax."
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Obama has not done this, yet.


did you listen to his speech last night?

though i agree -- there are some out there who will not let Obama be "their" president no matter what he does.

another question: do you think HRC would have won last night?
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Obama has not done this, yet.
Are you referring to Obama's mere 349 electoral votes or his mere 7.5 million popular vote margin?
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Old 11-05-2008, 04:05 PM   #180
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Are you referring to Obama's mere 349 electoral votes or his mere 7.5 million popular vote margin?


the 64% of the country who were inspired to vote, the highest since 1908? the fact that he got a majority of the popular vote, something that Clinton never did? the fact that he got a greater majority than LBJ?

(and it's likely that it will be more than 349 as i bet NC will go for BHO)
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