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Old 10-17-2008, 12:44 PM   #586
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Sorry, but can you honestly say that Bush has been "beyond reproach" for the last 4-5 years? If so, then the kool-aid must be awfully strong. Bush has received scrutiny for just about everything he's done since the beginning of 2004.
Tell that to the Dixie Chicks, and enjoy your kool-aid.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:46 PM   #587
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Yeah. I'd say McCain did really well, actually. If he appeared that relaxed at the debates, we may have had an entirely different race on our hands.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:47 PM   #588
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They should have had Letterman moderate the debate
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:57 PM   #590
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When you see him like that, which is the way I remember him from 2000, I think what the hell happened.



i can't decide if evil people have taken over McCain, or if he was always just a media fabrication to begin with.

i'm beginning to think he's a media fabrication. it would be highly unlikely that i'd ever vote for a Republican on a national ticket, so it wasn't like McCain ever had my vote, not after Iraq, but the Palin pick, for me, cut open his chest so i could see that there was nothing beating inside.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:10 PM   #591
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i can't decide if evil people have taken over McCain, or if he was always just a media fabrication to begin with.

i'm beginning to think he's a media fabrication. it would be highly unlikely that i'd ever vote for a Republican on a national ticket, so it wasn't like McCain ever had my vote, not after Iraq, but the Palin pick, for me, cut open his chest so i could see that there was nothing beating inside.
His 23 years as a naval officer, his 27 years in congress, in fact nearly everything he has done since he was 17 years old is NO fabrication. He's been right on the issues that matter most to this country over the past 8 years, especially on National Security where Joe Biden and Barack Obama have often shown they have no clue. Only the most politically partisan democrats would claim that McCain has no heart.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:32 PM   #592
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Put aside his record, he is NOT the candidate he was in 2000. He made a conscious decision to court the right wing of the party to win the nomination. He made a conscious decision to bring people to run his campaign differently that he did in 2000. I hear it from a very good friend who rode the straight talk express in 2000 and has ridden it over the last year. These decisions and the manner in which he is being handled has been so different that I have to work at it to like him. I genuinely liked him in 2000. My grandfather, 80+ years old now, a life long democrat switched parties in 2000 to vote for him. He HATES him now, because it became about winning at all costs. The thing I loved about him, was that he seemed to not give a shite about winning the last time. He made me believe that STRAIGHT TALK was important, more important than winning. That is what is different about the man. He has allowed himself to be managed by the people who kicked the living snot out of him the last time. He could have gotten away with STRAIGHT TALK this time, because, the country is looking for that after being sold a bullshit war centered around WMD, After being told our citzens would not be surveilled through the Patriot Act, after being told that No Child Left Behind was going to change education and be funded.....the line of bullshite made the time ripe for the 2000 MCCain. Unfortunatley, many of us waited, and waited and waited.....

By the time the 2000 McCain arrived at the convention...he picks a VP that makes most people go WTF? Is he kissing the ass of the right again???? This waxs the time for him to move to the center or pick someone with some type of credentials that fit the times. I do not need another MAVERICK in a VP. I thought I had that in him.

So, his record, which I respect tremendously, does not matter to me when he wants the Presidency so badly he sold out the ideals that I admired in him.
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How exactly was your clip demonstrative of him getting a new one torn?

Yeah, I didn't realize that's only the first half. The second half, which conviently is not up on youtube yet, is where Dave got into it with him.

Will post as soon as it's up.
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Was it like Stewart getting into it with him?
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No, Dave asked him a few serious questions, such as "if you know how to get Bin Laden why haven't you provided the info to the current administration", and "did Palin say Obama pals around with terrorists" to which McCain began to say "I don't know" and then said "yes", and the Dave said "Don't you have a relationship with G. Gordon Liddy?", and a few other really good questions that people should've been asking McCain all along.
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"Don't you have a relationship with G. Gordon Liddy?"


indeed. this is a man who told his radio listeners how best to kill federal agents.
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Oh noes! Drudge is showing it as a two-point race



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Old 10-17-2008, 03:26 PM   #598
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my definition is basically the progressive tax. Tax people at a higher percentage the more money they make, take that money and use it for welfare programs/tax breaks or whatever for people that don't make as much money. "spread the wealth around."
What if we changed that last bit to "pay for the war"?

Would that make it more palatable?
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I don't really care what it is around the world, I'm talking about the U.S. In the U.S., socialism falls under the far left.
This made me laugh for reasons I can't explain.
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Here's the interview w/ Dave:

John McCain October 16 David Letterman Interview (Video)
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