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Old 10-16-2008, 04:43 PM   #496
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"JOBS" a 3 letter word so says Joe Biden.

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Old 10-16-2008, 05:01 PM   #497
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'Joe the plumber' and Obama’s tax plan - The Debates - MSNBC.com

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Even if he did buy Newell Plumbing and Heating, Obama’s tax plan wouldn’t affect him. While Wurzelbacher told Obama that the business would be taxed at a higher rate because it grossed more than $250,000 a year, Ohio business records show the company’s estimated total annual revenue as only $100,000.

In any event, Obama’s tax plan specifies that the higher rate would apply only to revenue above the $250,000 threshold. For a company with revenue of $280,000, the top end of Wurzelbacher’s supposition, only the extra $30,000 would be taxed at a higher rate.

Analysts calculated that the extra tax would amount to $900, which would likely be more than offset by separate provisions of Obama’s plan: a 50 percent tax credit for health care and elimination of the capital gains tax for small businesses.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:16 PM   #498
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^He's looking more and more like Joe the Planted-by-McCain Plumber to me.

Focus attention on Obama's tax plan and show that McCain has a folksy, populist side.

Doesn't matter that the information is wrong.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:31 PM   #499
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Thanks for confirming my question, Utoo and Irvine.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:01 PM   #500
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Doesn't matter that the information is wrong.
It never does.
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He's increasingly looking like Joe the douchebag.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:06 PM   #502
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He's increasingly looking like Joe the douchebag.
That title has already been taken by John the Senator.
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:07 PM   #503
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My Dad, the Jessie Jackson supporter felt that McCain won last night. I did not. What scares me is I have never ever voted for a winning Presidential candidate before. I am about to vote for Obama.
Wait...you went from voting for Bush in 92 and Dole in 96 to voting for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004? That seems pretty drastic. How do you get from one to the other?
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:22 PM   #504
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Doesn't matter that the information is wrong.
That's true. Once people hear this, if they are inclined to believe it, they will, even if they find out later it has been proven false.

It's why campaigns use these tactics. Even if the assertions are proven false they've already done the job.
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That title has already been taken by John the Senator.
I thought John the Senator was John the Super Douchebag.
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Wait...you went from voting for Bush in 92 and Dole in 96 to voting for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004? That seems pretty drastic. How do you get from one to the other?

88 Dukakis
92 Perot
96 Dole
2000 Wrote in McCain
2004 I voted Libertarian

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All over the map huh?
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:53 PM   #507
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88 Dukakis
92 Perot
96 Dole
2000 Wrote in McCain
2004 I voted Libertarian

:O)

All over the map huh?
So what exactly are you afraid of? You voted four times(88, 92, 96, 04) for candidates that were known to not have a chance in hell, and one time(00) for a guy who wasn't even on the ballot. It's not like these were close elections where you voted for the loser...92 and 96 weren't close and 00 and 04 it's not as though you went with your gut, voting for the guy who came in close 2nd, and your gut was wrong. I'm not sure what it is that scares you.
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88 Dukakis
92 Perot
96 Dole
2000 Wrote in McCain
2004 I voted Libertarian
I've had a similarly disjointed voting past.

84 Can't remember, assuming I even voted.
88 Bush (even though my union bosses told me I should vote for Dukakis)
92 Bush
96 Clinton
00 Gore
04 Kerry

Sometime in the early 90's is when I "found" myself politically and realized I was voting against my interests. But I was a car guy, and car enthusiasts typically vote republican. By 96, I realized there was more to life than just zooming around in my hotrod.
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I'm not sure what it is that scares you.
The way I read Dread's post is that given his losing voting record, he's afraid for Obama's campaign in light of the fact that he's voting for him.
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:03 PM   #510
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The way I read Dread's post is that given his losing voting record, he's afraid for Obama's campaign in light of the fact that he's voting for him.
I read it the same, but his voting past shouldn't cause any kind of superstitious fear like that because he was voting for people that had no chance in hell of winning anyway. It wasn't his vote that caused all of those guys to lose, it was the 200,000,000 other votes they didn't get(well, less than that for Dole).
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