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Old 03-09-2009, 01:57 PM   #31
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:37 PM   #32
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This is sick. You cant let this shit die can you? You bunch of evil bastards.
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RT� News: PSNI officer shot in Craigavon - reports

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Monday, 9 March 2009 22:57
There are reports tonight that a PSNI officer has been shot in the Craigavon area.

The initial information suggests the shooting took place within the past hour and the victim is in a critical condition.

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BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | Police officer shot dead in town

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A police officer has died following a shooting incident in Craigavon, County Armagh.

The incident is understood to have happened near Lismore High School at Brownlow.

Police came under attack while investigating suspicious activity near the school.
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #34
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Also, most dissident republicans' activities have been inept. That they suddenly pull off this Tet offensive style coup is...rather odd.


Create the problem, then offer the solution to deal with the problem - the modus operandi of intelligence services.
While a questioning attitude is always valid I think at this point it probably was RIRA.

These people have no representation, no mandate, and must not be allowed to succeed.

Yolland, can the thread title be changed to reflect that there is unfortunately another fatality tonight?
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:53 AM   #35
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I couldn't believe it when I read this news story last night - I'm only praying that this is in no way connected with the other shootings, and this is not some downward spiral and a way of things to come.
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:24 AM   #36
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It won't be a downward spiral, but they might be able to mess around for a while, they're too small to do anything of a sustained nature. I doubt at this stage it's anymore than 3 blokes sitting around a table with a few arms, but they can certainly fuck things up for a bit.
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LJT did you watch UTV Special last night?
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Sorry not in NI at the moment, i'm at uni in Manchester...what was it on about?
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:22 AM   #39
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So this time it was the Continuity IRA. Probably couldn't have the Real IRA get all the attention and decided they had to do something as well. Idiots.

And I've read of fliers passed around in some towns by unionists who call for revenge. Would be terrible if they started their own little war now.
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last night they said on Programme it's NOT a good idea to start this whole 'tit-for-tat' game.
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It wouldn't be unionists passing out flyers...most likely still active loyalists...loyalists have been going at each other for years...they'll probably still be to hateful of each other to do anything, they've always been less co-ordinated than any of the IRAs. It should be said the Continuity IRA is a much smaller organisation than even the quite small Real IRA, they are known to work together on things due to their relative sizes.

To be honest the way people are talking this up, I don't think is helpful. Things aren't falling apart on the streets, and for that matter this is only a big deal because these attacks were successful. There have been loads of unsuccessful attacks over the last few years, and paramilitary shootings at least in my part of Belfast are still all too common, but they don't get reported nationally because they're on civilians (well sort of, depends whether you count ex-IRA dudes or drug dealers as civilians for the most part). People are playing into their hands by hyping it up as some sort of crisis in the peace process, an annoyance to said process but nothing major.

To be honest i'm just fed up with it all, the politics of home are twisted and boring enough, without anyone else getting involved like the paramilitaries. Anyway it's never going to go back to what it was like when I was young (you could say i've seen some 'interesting' sights in my younger years) and even less likely to go back to what it was like in the 70s, I would say hopefully, this is the last spurts of a dying cause.
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last night they said on Programme it's NOT a good idea to start this whole 'tit-for-tat' game.
Definitely not, but I worry about how it's being portrayed in the media here in England, they're building it up waaaaaay too much.
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Sorry for the mixup of the terms. Didn't really know there was to be differentiated between, so it's interesting to learn.

I don't think there is any chance of the whole mess of the 70s-90s coming back, which is a huge step forward. But these skirmishes are ugly as they are, and can easily involve innocents which is bad enough. But I agree with you, it won't affect the bigger process.
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no way would it return to as bad as those days!

I only remember the tale-end (as I call it) of the Troubles, in the early 90s.
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To be fair that's what I recall as well, but when it's happening right outside your house at times, it sticks in your mind like crap at the bottom of your shoe. Whether it was a riot, a couple of bombs outside your house (the bar just across the road from me, very small road, always had a few bombs left outside it) twas quite fun to see the army bomb disposal robot, a guy shot dead next door, the army marching through your house, walking to school asking the soldiers to show you their guns while they were hiding behind trees...When I think about it, twas a strange yet ordinary childhood in regards to family life But hey West Belfast is still an interesting place to grow up

Vincent, the term Unionist is used to describe the political parties that support NI remaining part of the UK, Loyalist is used to describe the terrorist organisations that support NI remaining part of the UK (for the most part these days they are more just gangsters peddling drugs). Nationalist/Republican is a bit more interchangeable.
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