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Old 06-28-2010, 03:30 PM   #1
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Vertigo siren?

I have no idea how Edge produces that siren sound at the beginning of Vertigo. There are one or two videos on youtube, but none with a description. Would appreciate any help!
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I have no idea how Edge produces that siren sound at the beginning of Vertigo. There are one or two videos on youtube, but none with a description. Would appreciate any help!
Death By Audio Supersonic Fuzz Gun. Click the switch to oscillation mode. Hit a E chord, then roll the volume off. The osicillation continues and that makes the siren.

Here's Dallas doing this sound. Check 1:27 into the video.


Here's Mick (The Unforgettable Fire) version, using the Axe-FX. Similar concept but I do think the tone of the "Fuzz Gun" works better.


Paul's clip with the Fuzz Gun
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Death By Audio Supersonic Fuzz Gun. Click the switch to oscillation mode. Hit a E chord, then roll the volume off. The osicillation continues and that makes the siren.
Cheers for the quick answer! One more reason to get the fuzz gun, been wanting that for months now.

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Cheers for the quick answer! One more reason to get the fuzz gun, been wanting that for months now.

Hows your new Fernandes workin' out for you?


Fuzz Gun is pretty fun machine. I remember trying the siren for the first time, looking right, and seeing 5 people outside my apt door (door was open) listening with their jaws dropped (as if to say: what the &^%$ was that!)



I need to get the Fernandes set up. There's a bit of a buzz. I think a full set up and frets getting dressed will be perfect.

I work for Chas as his "Dallas" with Joshua Tree. This weekend I was helping work on tones and we've a show next Saturday.

So week after or so... it will be off to refinishing at Marty Bell Finishing (San Diego) and then re-assembly and setup at "Top Gear" (San Diego).
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I highly recommend the Death By Audio "Harmonic Transformer" too. That seems to be the nice thick solo tone for "UltraViolet" for 360 tour.
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Sweet, thanks for the help.

We'll patiently be waiting for pics and vids
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Sweet, thanks for the help.

We'll patiently be waiting for pics and vids

Pics and vids of?
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Edge-Approve RetroRocket Elite is on the way.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Patience is a virtue.

I have the 'before' pictures. But I am having it refinished. Once I get that done, I will post before and after pictures.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Patience is a virtue.
Cheers! And patience is overvalued!
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Cheers! And patience is overvalued!
...says the impatient one.

I should be taking the guitar to refinish in a week or so... Refinish, reassemble and setup.

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And here i was thinking it was just a backing track :P
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And here i was thinking it was just a backing track :P
Could be that Dallas is doing that from down below. Could be that after developing the sound they've made a loop. But essentially, it is the Fuzz Gun with the oscillator switch on, as previously explained.
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I knew my Retro Rocket was new old stock. I was thinking it was a 2005/2006 but as it turns out, as verified by Andres at Fernandes, it is a 2003.

...a seven year old NEW Retro Rocket.





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Could be that Dallas is doing that from down below. Could be that after developing the sound they've made a loop. But essentially, it is the Fuzz Gun with the oscillator switch on, as previously explained.
That's definitely live, it's not always the same. You see Edge hit the strings to break up the siren and start it off again sometimes and that varies from concert to concert. I really love the effect though, it gave the song so much OOMPH!
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That's definitely live, it's not always the same. You see Edge hit the strings to break up the siren and start it off again sometimes and that varies from concert to concert. I really love the effect though, it gave the song so much OOMPH!
Edge strikes the chord but isn't using the volume on the guitar... I think Dallas is involved here (from the underworld).

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Edge strikes the chord but isn't using the volume on the guitar... I think Dallas is involved here (from the underworld).

Oklahoma too. You see Edge strum but not use the volume. So I think that is a Dallas thing.
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You see in the soundcheck video he switches the MIDI preset, but yeah he does turn on the volume knob again. I can see Dallas switching the preset from the underworld, but how would Edge play the tune with his volume knob turned off? Or am I completely missing something?
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You see in the soundcheck video he switches the MIDI preset, but yeah he does turn on the volume knob again. I can see Dallas switching the preset from the underworld, but how would Edge play the tune with his volume knob turned off? Or am I completely missing something?
In the soundcheck, I think Dallas is bringing up the sound and checking it there. The first 'swell' of the siren you hear is when he rolls the volume off and you hear just the osciillation.

What I think is happening is that Edge is striking a chord. But I think that Dallas is using another guitar, it's volume and manipulating the Fuzz Gun from underneath the stage to get that siren.

I will see if I can make a clip later.
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Edge uses the Casino, he strikes the E-chord on that and the siren starts, he switches to the Telecaster in the meantime and sometimes start striking the chords on that as well. So you're saying Dallas probably uses the volume knob from the Casino while Edge is in charge of the strokes, until Dallas cuts the siren (and hence, put the Casino for instance aside, while Vertigo gets going?)

I think I have a headache. Great if you get the video, but no rush!!!
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