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Old 11-25-2004, 09:03 PM   #1
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I'm Not Allowed To Ask This Question

I'm getting gravely disappointed that I can't start a conversation with other U2 guitar-playing fans about figuring out the chords of the new songs.

I do not think at all that it is in the spirit of the band label's restrictions to not discuss something as innocent as this. And I guarantee this would NOT stand up in court. I'm really, really disappointed.

Is there anyone who can e-mail me to start a conversation? I'm afraid of even mentioning what song I'm trying to figure out.

I think this completely and utterly sucks, and I think this is taking things too far. I have to respect Elvis's concerns, though, since this is his site, so I'm considering reopening my forum to include a section on guitar. It's ridiculous to not even be able to talk about this with other fans.

In this day and age, do I have to now resort to picking up a phone and having a conference call, or take it down to a one-on-one level of e-mail for something which should naturally and safely be a public discussion?

I'm willing to take this chance on my site, because I seriously, seriously, seriously doubt this is any fucking business of the label.

Sorry. I'm usually not this angry and vocal, but I am just beyond frustration about this.

My e-mail address is Mark@U2BloodRedSky.com, if anyone wants to discuss this taboo subject of how to play U2 songs on the guitar with me.

Sorry if this pisses you off, Elvis, but it's not really about you. It's really about the label.

Thank you.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:45 PM   #2
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I agree Mark. I think it's ridiculous that you aren't "allowed" to talk about this. I don't see what the problem is.

I thought these boards were supposed to be for fans to discuss the music. After all, isn't the music the main reason we're fans in the first place?
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:48 PM   #3
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Well, apparently, if we talk too specifically about the music, Interscope will shut the site down.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:50 PM   #4
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Its NOT the label.

Its the publishing group. Two different things... owned by one huge company.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:55 PM   #5
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Its NOT the label.

Its the publishing group. Two different things... owned by one huge company.
Ok, same difference. The result is the same. The outcome is the same. The frustration is the same. The ridiculousness of it is the same. The idiocy of the company is the same no matter what sub-company it is.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:57 PM   #6
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Man, if I didn't have to worry about my family, I'd make it a life mission to bring these assholes to justice. I'd counter sue their asses.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:03 PM   #7
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Ok, my ugly side is showing. I hope I'm not shocking anyone. But, if you ask me, everyone should be outraged about many things about the label, the RIAA, the supreme lack of common sense. There's a lot of pent-up anger coming out here.

Am I bugging ya? I didn't mean to bug ya.

I also think I need to change my avatar, not to mention most other members should probably change their's, also. Did they include that in the C&D, I wonder? Bastards.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:07 PM   #8
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huh, isn't that what the Three Chords and the Truth board is for?
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:08 PM   #9
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Hmmm. You have a point. It started out here because it was initially going to be about a song from the album.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:09 PM   #10
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Elvis, is it possible to move this to Three Chords and the Truth? There I can continue my own personal blog to rage against the machine.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:10 PM   #11
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Oh, and if anyone is wondering, the question I originally had is about the 11th track of the most recent album from the best band in the world.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:20 PM   #12
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Look, if you're looking for tablature for U2 songs, there's a great site that has Guitar Pro tabs for every artist. I don't know if you're familiar with Guitar Pro, but it's the best tabbing software available.

Just type in these search keywords in google: guitar pro tabs U2 (or any other artist). The site has 72 easily readable tabs for U2---many of the tabs are full-band tabs. Hell, here's the site's name: mysongbook.com. I don't care---the site is legit, because there are thousands of artists tabbed there.

I certainly have a big problem with Elvis blocking conversation about sharing tabs and such, but he didn't lift a finger to stop the file sharing of U2's leaked album. If he is so respectful of the label, why did he allow the illegal sharing of U2 songs go on without even a single warning? Which is more valuable? Tabs or songs? Don't tell me that Elvis didn't stop it because the label doesn't mind it.

Also, I can tab out any song and it would be MY OWN INTERPRETATION of the song, and therefore the publishing company doesn't own the tab that I came up with. All of the tab sites have this legal protection. So why is it so important to lock down on tab sharing, when the songs themselves were stolen with the help of this site?
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Oh, and Guitar Pro has a free trial version of the software so that you can actually read the tabs. It is well worth the time to install it.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:26 PM   #14
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Thanks GibsonExplorer. I looked there, but they don't have this, or most of the new stuff there yet. Plus, I'm looking to discuss it in addition to finding it.

Elvis actually got a C&D after the leak, so he's being ultra-conservative (unless the C&D categorically mentioned the guitar tabs, also).
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:27 PM   #15
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Oh, and Guitar Pro has a free trial version of the software so that you can actually read the tabs. It is well worth the time to install it.
Yep, I have this. Thanks.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:28 PM   #16
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hmmmm, this is all amazing to me. the world is full of people that say one thing, and then dont really follow it up. There is a word for it, i cant really put my finger on it, but i believe it starts with uh, an h maybe. Even "Loud Folk" stars are caught in it i guess.

I am completely awestruck by the fact that fans are not aloud to look for guitar tabs to play their favorite songs at home, yet other bands can just bust it out anytime they want live, or pull a "plain frozen water" (you figure it out, protecting myself) and rip the whole thing for their own gains. I dont care if they offer royalties.

next thing these clowns are gonna say is i cant sing along, or mumble the words out when i am bored of listening to silence.

I know this is my first post, and there is a reason. I have watched this forum at a distant off and on for a long time, since interference.com was a legitimate fan site. (kick me off now elvis, justify what I am about to say). I havent subscribed til now cause it seemed like many people were reading, and i know agreeing but were afraid to post. (this was awhile ago while i was jumping through hurdles to get registered).

This is why I dont like to buy music. I have many reasons, but it all comes back to labels, publishing groups, managements who basically want to tell me off as i walk into their store and expect me to stay and shop. By the way, I want my 15 extra bucks back for that crap book that came with my cd. what a waste, i can paint a paper a solid color and do the same. write meaningless crap in wierd shapes on a page.
Damn, this all sounded better in my head, I dont know what i just typed, and i think i forgot the most important things i wanted to say.
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:33 PM   #17
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Man, I spelled a word wrong. That is not like me. I noticed the grammar fading towards the end, but I was worked up. Thanks Mark. I probably wont be able to sleep tonight now.
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Click on the edit button on your post.
You can edit posts within the hour of making 'em.
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Thanks Climhazzard. I feel honored that I got you worked up enough to actually register.
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What about on zootopia when that opens again. Can you talk about this stuff there?
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