What we really do know about NLOTH ...

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It's time for a new perspective on the new album's tracks, I guess. I will try an analytical summary of NLOTH from the journalist's view, with the tunes in a casual running-order:
- First the Q-source from November visiting the Olympic Studios and a private session with Bono ...
- Second the Q-magazine snippets, that might capture nearly the same period than the first source and might have the same roots as controbution for Q's special ...
- Third the RS-review of the tracks from early December (with the wrong date, 22nd January, but claiming to be part of the 7th January issue!!!)

... enjoy!

1. "Magnificence"
(- Q-source: "classic U2-isms"; "echoes TUF's opening track A Sort Of Homecoming in its atmospheric sweep"
- Q-magazine: "slow building anthem with the ambience of TUF and laced with the wide eyed wonder of U2's earlier albums. Edge here is at his most dynamic. Features the line:"Only love can reset your mind""
- RS-source: ""Only love can leave such a mark," Bono roars on what sounds like an instant U2 anthem. Will.i.am has already done what Bono calls "the most extraordinary" remix of the tune")

2. "Crazy Tonight"
(- Q-source: "straight up pop"; "the track Will.I.Am was taking a pass at"
- Q-magazine: "upbeat pop track with distinct echoes of 60's era Phil Spector, particularly the moment when its chorus disappears into a wash of reverb. Centres around the line: "I'll go crazy If I dont go crazy tonight""
- RS-source: "It's kind of like this album's 'Beautiful Day' — it has that kind of joy to it," Bono says. With the refrain "I know I'll go crazy/If I don't go crazy tonight," it's the band's most unabashed pop tune since "Sweetest Thing"")

3. "Stand Up"
(- Q-source: "swaggering"; "wherein U2 get in touch with their, hitherto unheard, funky selves - albeit propelled by some coruscating Edge guitar work, a signature feature of a number of the tracks"; "home to the knowing Bono lyric, "Stand up to rock stars/Napoleon is in high heels/Be careful of small men with big ideas.""
- Q-magazine: "rousing groove-based rocker with shades of Led Zep and Cream. Edge mentions that they're trying to keep Stand Up in a rough state and not overproduce it by putting it through Pro-Tools which cleans up imperfections"
- RS-source: "Stand Up Comedy"; "another hard rock tune, powered by an unexpectedly slinky groove and a riff that lands between the Beatles' "Come Together" and Led Zep's "Heartbreaker." Edge recently hung out with Jimmy Page and Jack White for the upcoming documentary It Might Get Loud, and their penchant for blues-based rock rubbed off: "I was just fascinated with seeing how Jimmy played those riffs so simply, and with Jack as well," he says")

4. "Get Your Boots On"
(- Q-source: "among other instantly striking tracks"; "a heaving electro-rocker that may mark the destination point the band had been seeking on POP"
- Q-magazine: "formerly titled "Sexy Boots", this demented electro grunge employs a proto-rockn'roll riff, but propelled into the future, with a hip-hop twist in the middle. Features Bono in flirtacious, self depreciating mode: "I dont wanna talk about wars between nations""
-RS-source: "the likely first single, this blazing, fuzzed-out rocker picks up where "Vertigo" left off. "It started just with me playing and Larry drumming," the Edge recalls. "And we took it from there"")

5. "Winter"
(- Q-source: "featuring a fine Bono lyric about a soldier in an unspecified war zone, surrounded by a deceptively simple rhythm track and an evocative string arrangement courtesy of Eno"
- Q-magazine: "6 minute ballad. Echoes of Simon & Garfunkel in this poignant, acoustic string laden ballad about a soldier in the snow of Afghanistan. Will appear in the new film 'Brothers' starring Tobey Maguire about the emotional fallout of the war. Edge on backing vocals with Bono for Winter"")

6. "Unknown Caller"
(- Q-source: "stately"; "was recorded in Fez and opens with the sounds of birdsong taped by Eno during a Moroccan dawn"
(- Q-magazine: "opens with the sound of birdsong recorded live in Fez. A middle eastern flavoured percussion loop drives this tale about a man"at the end of his rope" whose phone bizarrely begins texting him random instructions: "Reboot yourself","Password, enter here","You're free to go".
Dallas Schoo describes the song as "one of Edge's major solos in his life - you wont hear better than that on any other song""
- RS-source: "this midtempo track could have fit on ATYCLB. "The idea is that the narrator is in an altered state, and his phone starts talking to him," says the Edge")

7. "Moment Of Surrender"
(- Q-source: "particular excitement was reserved for"; "a strident seven-minute epic recorded in a single take"; "sounds like a great U2 moment in the spirit of "One""
- Q-magazine: "georgiously melodic 7 minute song that already has the air of the U2 classic about it, with lyrics about dark stars and existential crises:"I did not notice the passers-by/And they did not notice me". Recorded in one take. This album's "One""
- RS-source: "this seven-minute-long track is one of the album's most ambitious, merging a TJT-style gospel feel with a hypnotically loping bass line and a syncopated beat"")

8. "Breathe"
(- Q-source: "particular excitement was reserved for"; "still a work in progress"; "Eno suggests, this is potentially both the best song the band had written and that he had worked on"
- Q-magazine: "Arabic cello gives way to joyful chorus. Brian Eno says this is U2's best ever song. It's 8pm and Eno, Bono and Will.i.am are on Olympic Studio 1 writing a cello part for a song called Breathe that U2 - a touch ambitiously - are only beginning to record in ths final fortnight, never mind mix – the singer belts out a rollicking vocal featuring door-to-door salesman, a cockatoo and a chorus that begins "Step out into the street, sing your heart out"")

9. "No Line On The Horizon"
(- Q-source: "further unfinished"; "two versions were extant: the first is another TUF-esque slow burner that builds to a euphoric coda, the second a punky Pixies/Buzzcocks homage that proceeds at a breathless pace", "Bono very excited about the second version"
(- Q-magazine: "began life as a slow paced Eno-esque ambient treatment, before being dramatically reworked in the Olympic Sessions into an abrasive punk-rock tune akin to Vertigo, with its "No! Line!" chorus chant"
- RS-source: "the title track's relentless groove began as a group improvisation. "It's very raw and very to the point," says the Edge. "It's like rock & roll 2009"")

10. "Every Breaking Wave"
(- Q-source: "further unfininished"; "emotive Bono vocal and an appropriately grand swell of a climax"; "something special"
- Q-magazine: "Lillywhite cues up the track, a slow burning track called "Every Breaking Wave" that gradually builds to a climax brimming with passion and intensity. Bono begins to sing rocking forward and backwards on his studio chair – he performs a note perfect vocal that employs the movement of the ocean as a metaphor for the human struggle, before building to the plaintive line "I dont know if I'm that strong". Two takes and 10 minutes later its done. Key line "Every Sailor knows that the Sea/Is a friend made enemy""
- RS-source: "a swelling soul-pop song, with bright synth sounds influenced by OMD and, Bono says, "early electronica." "You don't hear indie bands doing blue-eyed soul [like this]," he adds")

11. "Cedars Of Lebanon"
(- Q-source: not mentioned ...
- Q-magazine: "Daniel Lanois instigated closer that finds Bono imagining himself as a weary, lovelorn war correspondent "squeezing complicated lives into a simple headline". Ends with the possibly telling line "Choose your enemies carefully cos they will define you""
- RS-source: ""On this album, you can feel what is going on in the world at the window, scratching at the windowpane," says Bono, who sings this atmospheric ballad from the point of view of a war correspondent")

12. "Tripoli"
(- Q-source: not mentioned ...
- Q-magazine: "Bono talks about a song called "Tripoli", which is a guy on a motorcycle, a Moraccan french cop, whos going AWOL. He drives though France and Spain down to this village outside of Cadiz where you can actually see the fires of Africa burning"
- RS-source: "this strikingly experimental song lurches between disparate styles, including near-operatic choral music, ZOOROPA-style electronics, and churning arena rock")
 
And here's the bit from the Q article that everyone seems to be missing:

Bono interview snippets -

- Bono on Tour plans. "Well, I can't say too much because the LiveNation people would die. But think its fair to say that what we've planned for outdoors has never been done before and that we've been working on it for a long time. It's a feat of engineering genius."

"- Bono talks about a song called Tripoli which is a guy on a motorcycle, a Moraccan french cop, whos going AWOL. He drives though France and Spain down to this village outside of Cadiz where you can actually see the fires of Africa burning. After the interview Bono drove Paul Rees (Q Editor) around Shepards Bush and played two other songs not named."

14 tracks minimum!
 
B did say the album was really long...

14 track at 4:30 is 63. Plus we know winter is 6 mins, and MOS is 7, so that makes 67 minutes
 
And here's the bit from the Q article that everyone seems to be missing:

Bono interview snippets -

- Bono on Tour plans. "Well, I can't say too much because the LiveNation people would die. But think its fair to say that what we've planned for outdoors has never been done before and that we've been working on it for a long time. It's a feat of engineering genius."

"- Bono talks about a song called Tripoli which is a guy on a motorcycle, a Moraccan french cop, whos going AWOL. He drives though France and Spain down to this village outside of Cadiz where you can actually see the fires of Africa burning. After the interview Bono drove Paul Rees (Q Editor) around Shepards Bush and played two other songs not named."

14 tracks minimum!

No, I didn't miss this! The mentioned interview-part is misleading. Bono drove the Q-editor around and played him two tracks, that were mentioned in the first article as "further unfinished" – as listed by myself. These tracks were "No Line On The Horizon" and "Every Breaking Wave". Read yourself: "A week after the Olympic playback, Bono treated Q to a private audience of two further unfinished tracks - playing both on his car stereo at teeth-rattling volume whilst being piloted through London's rush-hour traffic. Two versions of the title track were extant: the first is another Unforgettable Fire-esque slow burner that builds to a euphoric coda, the second a punk-y Pixies/Buzzcocks homage that proceeds at a breathless pace. "We recorded the second version just last night," explained the singer whilst enthusiastically air drumming along to it. "I'm very excited by that one," Q begged to differ, casting a vote for the more layered earlier version. One other track, Every Breaking Wave, was beginning to take shape around an emotive Bono vocal and an appropriately grand swell of a climax. "We might be on to something special there," noted Bono. "

So, there are still 12 tracks here, not 14 ...:wave:
 
We already have a thread compiling the official information thanks to Sicy. Is this really necessary? Are people too lazy to scroll down one thread?

Un-fucking-believable.
 
Hmm.... It really depends on the bit; "Two versions of the title track were extant:" Is that supposed to refer to the 2 unnamed songs in the previous sentence, or is it meant to be the start of another topic? I read it as being another topic?
 
^ while i agree with the sentiment, I dont see a problem with a thread that is a collation of all the info we have about the songs.
 
We already have a thread compiling the official information thanks to Sicy. Is this really necessary? Are people too lazy to scroll down one thread?

Un-fucking-believable.
I'm always stunned at how rude and what OCD fascists people can sometimes be on this board! That one is a locked thread and perhaps this one is a big more of a conversation?
 
B did say the album was really long...

14 track at 4:30 is 63. Plus we know winter is 6 mins, and MOS is 7, so that makes 67 minutes

That is a long album. :up:

14 songs of kickass tracks going for just under 70 minutes, yes sir. :D :drool:
 
Mercy... :drool:

sorry, had to do it :p

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Originally Posted by last unicorn
Is there any thread about the new album where Mercy isn't mentioned?

Look here, the known journalistic facts about NLOTH until now ...

What we really do know about NLOTH ...
 
We already have a thread compiling the official information thanks to Sicy. Is this really necessary? Are people too lazy to scroll down one thread?

Un-fucking-believable.

Does it really matter? You seem highly offended over something posted on a message board. Go to the other thread if you want.

Glad I don't have O.C.D.
 
Does it really matter? You seem highly offended over something posted on a message board. Go to the other thread if you want.

Glad I don't have O.C.D.

Thanx for your support, friends – it is just a kind of new, compiled view on all the 'official' journalistic info, we've got so far. And that might be helpful, so just enjoy and draw your conclusions :wink:
 
Thanx for your support, friends – it is just a kind of new, compiled view on all the 'official' journalistic info, we've got so far. And that might be helpful, so just enjoy and draw your conclusions :wink:

It's convenient considering there were about 20 people last night saying "Hey, I haven't checked here in 3 weeks, any news?"
 
Sorry, Vlad, but we still have 'only' 12 tracks to discuss (as explained above). But you still can dream, of course :wink:


Let him dream! As I explained above, I'm reading those lines differently than you. You may be right....but I don't think so!

Why would the writer intend to call two songs "unnamed" if he knew their names? Maybe poor writing? I don't know, but the simplest explanation seems to be 14 tracks!
 
Let him dream! As I explained above, I'm reading those lines differently than you. You may be right....but I don't think so!

Why would the writer intend to call two songs "unnamed" if he knew their names? Maybe poor writing? I don't know, but the simplest explanation seems to be 14 tracks!

It's possible, but not likely looking at all of U2's past albums. I think we're all forgetting that we'll probably get tossed a b-side for GYBO (remember Are You Gonna Wait Forever?) and the token import bonus track. There's also the fact that some of the songs seem to have two working titles. Like Tripoli might be refered to as Breathe in the Q article... I don't recall.
 
Sorry, Vlad, but we still have 'only' 12 tracks to discuss (as explained above). But you still can dream, of course :wink:

We'll discuss the rest as they reach the surface.

Let him dream! As I explained above, I'm reading those lines differently than you. You may be right....but I don't think so!

Why would the writer intend to call two songs "unnamed" if he knew their names? Maybe poor writing? I don't know, but the simplest explanation seems to be 14 tracks!

Eh, who knows? I can dream out loud. :wink:
 
It's possible, but not likely looking at all of U2's past albums. I think we're all forgetting that we'll probably get tossed a b-side for GYBO (remember Are You Gonna Wait Forever?) and the token import bonus track. There's also the fact that some of the songs seem to have two working titles. Like Tripoli might be refered to as Breathe in the Q article... I don't recall.

No. Triploi and Breathe are enitrely different songs.

Breathe is what people were calling Walk Out Into the Streets - Beach clip 2, Tripoli is the clip from Here Is What Is with Bono singing and playing guitar, and Eno clapping
 
Why would the writer intend to call two songs "unnamed" if he knew their names? Maybe poor writing? I don't know, but the simplest explanation seems to be 14 tracks!
I believe in poor writing that way, that we have

1. one private session by Bono while driving around with Q
2. during this session two at that moment unfinished tunes were played, "No Line On The Horizon" (of whom two versions exist) and the still to be completed "Every Breaking Wave"

If you were right, Bono would have made such a private car session twice with Q, and would have played on both of them only two tunes – I don't believe so. Plus: 12 tunes with two rather long tracks would explain, why Bono called the album "very long". Hopefully none of the 12 will be thrown out therefore as it happened to a certain tune on the last album... :wave:
 
No. Triploi and Breathe are enitrely different songs.

Breathe is what people were calling Walk Out Into the Streets - Beach clip 2, Tripoli is the clip from Here Is What Is with Bono singing and playing guitar, and Eno clapping

Yeah, I forget which two, but I coulda swore two of them could've just been the Edge calling it something and Bono calling it a different name....
 
I believe in poor writing that way, that we have

1. one private session by Bono while driving around with Q
2. during this session two at that moment unfinished tunes were played, "No Line On The Horizon" (of whom two versions exist) and the still to be completed "Every Breaking Wave"

If you were right, Bono would have made such a private car session twice with Q, and would have played on both of them only two tunes – I don't believe so. Plus: 12 tunes with two rather long tracks would explain, why Bono called the album "very long". Hopefully none of the 12 will be thrown out therefore as it happened to a certain tune on the last album... :wave:

Unfortunately I think they're just gonna save a couple as B-sides. Think of how much better ATYCLB would have been with Always, Summer Rain, or Levitate on it...
 
Yeah, I forget which two, but I coulda swore two of them could've just been the Edge calling it something and Bono calling it a different name....

in the other thread people were sayoing this about Winter and Cedars... I would give this a chance of two-fifths of fuck all...
 
5. "Winter"
(- Q-source: "featuring a fine Bono lyric about a soldier in an unspecified war zone, surrounded by a deceptively simple rhythm track and an evocative string arrangement courtesy of Eno"
- Q-magazine: "6 minute ballad. Echoes of Simon & Garfunkel in this poignant, acoustic string laden ballad about a soldier in the snow of Afghanistan. Will appear in the new film 'Brothers' starring Tobey Maguire about the emotional fallout of the war. Edge on backing vocals with Bono for Winter"")

11. "Cedars Of Lebanon"
(- Q-source: not mentioned ...
- Q-magazine: "Daniel Lanois instigated closer that finds Bono imagining himself as a weary, lovelorn war correspondent "squeezing complicated lives into a simple headline". Ends with the possibly telling line "Choose your enemies carefully cos they will define you""
- RS-source: ""On this album, you can feel what is going on in the world at the window, scratching at the windowpane," says Bono, who sings this atmospheric ballad from the point of view of a war correspondent")


Nope, not the same in my opinion, simply because Q-magazine does list these tunes in the same article as two different songs. Plus: Lebanon/cedars/war correspondent is another story than the one of a soldier in Afghanistan ...:wink:
 
in the other thread people were sayoing this about Winter and Cedars... I would give this a chance of two-fifths of fuck all...

Yeah, bloody hell. Every song is different, just some popped up in articles while others didn't.
 
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