What we really do know about NLOTH ...

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^ ok guys, the 12 or 14 song arguement has gone nowhere in 2 days. Some believe the quote means 12, some 14. We have 12 titles so far. We have a qwuote from a radio show saying the album is 14-15 songs, and Bono says the album is really long.

We won't know for sure either way until we here offical news. ZOO, great thread, and thanks for collating all the known info. Niceman, you make a good point about the article, and we will see how it pans out.
 
All true....but we have NOTHING, beyond you, to contradict the fact that there are 12 songs PLUS the two unnamed songs!!!!!! :wave:
I've never said, that only 12 songs will make it on the album. Just wanted to clear the confusion here in the forum and make the point, that so far we really have only 12 different, named tracks so far – and that these shouldn't be mixed up.
I'd wish, that the album is really long with 14-15 tunes – so with 2-3 yet unknown tracks (that might be identical with the quoted "unnamed" ones in the article) more on the album. It would be great also because – then there is still hope for "Mercy"? :wink:
 
What if Mercy ended up being reworked and totally renamed!
Might be, might not be, might be reworked, might be put on, might be left off and forgotten – as said before, I really hope for more 'official' info from Rolling Stone today. Anybody out there, who's already reading it? You'd be welcome to share ...
 
I've never said, that only 12 songs will make it on the album. Just wanted to clear the confusion here in the forum and make the point, that so far we really have only 12 different, named tracks so far – and that these shouldn't be mixed up.
I'd wish, that the album is really long with 14-15 tunes – so with 2-3 yet unknown tracks (that might be identical with the quoted "unnamed" ones in the article) more on the album. It would be great also because – then there is still hope for "Mercy"? :wink:

I think you and I can agree that we just don't know yet! We have 12 titles that seem solid and there have been a couple of comments which MAY mean that we will get 14 or more songs.... but that part isn't spelled out enough to be concrete yet. But when some people do decide they want to read the comments as meaning that there are 14 or more tracks, they're being somewhat reasonable by doing so. Fair enough? :)
 
isnt it better when we all get along?
We really do, at least those of us in this rather 'analytical' thread. I really appreciate it – and hope we can feed our boad here from RS with new 'official' info as soon as possible. Could make a more complete picture of what NLOTH might be like. :drool:
 
I think I'm going to go insane waiting for some real information! Isn't it time for the first single to be out already? Knowing that it might happen at any time is too much!! LOL!
 
I think I'm going to go insane waiting for some real information! Isn't it time for the first single to be out already? Knowing that it might happen at any time is too much!! LOL!

Don't know, but my feeling is – it is still too early. With an album being published in late February/early March, for the teaser single I'd count from next week on at the best. Hope for an earlier leak though, too ... We might feelt better, when we take a second and look back on other hard times – to learn, why 1997 might teach us something for 2009:

-HTDAAB (2004): released November 22/23; the single "Vertigo" officially came November 8/9 (though an earlier format circulated from late September on in the US already) ...

- AYCLB (2000): released October 30; the single "Beautiful Day" officially came October 9/10 (though it arrived at radio stations a month earlier) ...

- POP (1997): released March 3/4 (as NLOTH in 2009!!!!); the single "Discotheque" came January 8 (but only that early, because the song already had leaked and was played illegally in the radio. Originally the release was planned later, which might give us another hint for today!)
 
I think I'm going to go insane waiting for some real information! Isn't it time for the first single to be out already? Knowing that it might happen at any time is too much!! LOL!

I hear ya.

I soooo don't want to miss being online when the single comes out/is leaked, but it's leading me towards an unhealthy affection for my computer screen. :wink:
 
Don't know, but my feeling is – it is still too early. With an album being published in late February/early March, for the teaser single I'd count from next week on at the best. Hope for an earlier leak though, too ... We might feelt better, when we take a second and look back on other hard times – to learn, why 1997 might teach us something for 2009:

-HTDAAB (2004): released November 22/23; the single "Vertigo" officially came November 8/9 (though an earlier format circulated from late September on in the US already) ...

- AYCLB (2000): released October 30; the single "Beautiful Day" officially came October 9/10 (though it arrived at radio stations a month earlier) ...

- POP (1997): released March 3/4 (as NLOTH in 2009!!!!); the single "Discotheque" came January 8 (but only that early, because the song already had leaked and was played illegally in the radio. Originally the release was planned later, which might give us another hint for today!)

those dates are physical releases, and they always go to radio earlier. I did the calculations based on the alst 2 albums, and if they are following their trends, we should have heard it on jan2/3. So yes, they are late, but it may be delibrate
 
I remember back in 2004 when everybody was waiting for Bomb, counting the days before the release in the 22sd. And bum! the album leaked entirely two weeks before! So i don't want to show hype thing up, but we could be closer than 53 before listening to the thing.

How about 45 days from now? :D

Things aside, if we think for a while, the "U2 machine" hasn't started to move yet. We don't have no album art, no new U2.com, no oficial tracklist. So maybe next week we will be overloaded by news!
 
Oficially we have just 5 words about the new album! No Line On The Horizon.

As far as i'm concerned the name of the songs on the RS and Q articles are working titles, everything could change before the real thing is out. Ok, probably not, but WTH, who knows???
 
So do we get any news from the RS-article? Dies it enrich our "knowledge" from page 1 of this thread? Please tell us ...:drool:
 
Okay, I worked the new info in (thanx to Sicy). This thread could be closed IMO. Anybody interested might go here

http://www.u2interference.com/forums/f196/update-what-we-really-do-know-abot-nloth-192016.html

Your new thread got locked.... nice try, though. Sometimes I think more threads would be better so we don't have just 3-5 threads with hundreds of posts. The 3-5 main threads that are active now are all starting to meander anyways and stray off their original topics.
 
UPDATE (01/07/2009)!
It's time for a new perspective on the new album's tracks, I guess. I will try an analytical summary of NLOTH from the journalist's view, with the tunes in a casual running-order:
- First the Q-source from November visiting the Olympic Studios and a private session with Bono ...
- Second the Q-magazine snippets, that might capture nearly the same period than the first source and might have the same roots as controbution for Q's special ...
- Third the RS-review of the tracks from early December (with the wrong date, 22nd January, but claiming to be part of the 7th January issue!!!)
-Fourth the current RS-article (01/07/2009), that was obviosuly written on the same occasion as the RS-review. This article confirms our impression here in the forum, that the time, Q and RS visited U2, the work was far from finished. One consequence: At least in parts the known album tracks are 'only' working titles; to create a tracklist for NLOTH out of this, is pure speculation. "We're at the point where half the album is done, and half the album is in a state where anything can happen — and probably will" – says the Edge and thus, this is all we know here on the board regarding the different tunes...

... enjoy and thanx for keeping this 'analytical' thread alive!

1. "Magnificence"
(- Q-source: "classic U2-isms"; "echoes TUF's opening track A Sort Of Homecoming in its atmospheric sweep"
- Q-magazine: "slow building anthem with the ambience of TUF and laced with the wide eyed wonder of U2's earlier albums. Edge here is at his most dynamic. Features the line:"Only love can reset your mind""
- RS-source: ""Only love can leave such a mark," Bono roars on what sounds like an instant U2 anthem. Will.i.am has already done what Bono calls "the most extraordinary" remix of the tune"
- RS-article: "familiarly chiming U2 anthem")

2. "Crazy Tonight"
(- Q-source: "straight up pop"; "the track Will.I.Am was taking a pass at"
- Q-magazine: "upbeat pop track with distinct echoes of 60's era Phil Spector, particularly the moment when its chorus disappears into a wash of reverb. Centres around the line: "I'll go crazy If I dont go crazy tonight""
- RS-source: "It's kind of like this album's 'Beautiful Day' — it has that kind of joy to it," Bono says. With the refrain "I know I'll go crazy/If I don't go crazy tonight," it's the band's most unabashed pop tune since "Sweetest Thing"
-RS-article: not mentioned)

3. "Stand Up"
(- Q-source: "swaggering"; "wherein U2 get in touch with their, hitherto unheard, funky selves - albeit propelled by some coruscating Edge guitar work, a signature feature of a number of the tracks"; "home to the knowing Bono lyric, "Stand up to rock stars/Napoleon is in high heels/Be careful of small men with big ideas.""
- Q-magazine: "rousing groove-based rocker with shades of Led Zep and Cream. Edge mentions that they're trying to keep Stand Up in a rough state and not overproduce it by putting it through Pro-Tools which cleans up imperfections"
- RS-source: "Stand Up Comedy"; "another hard rock tune, powered by an unexpectedly slinky groove and a riff that lands between the Beatles' "Come Together" and Led Zep's "Heartbreaker." Edge recently hung out with Jimmy Page and Jack White for the upcoming documentary It Might Get Loud, and their penchant for blues-based rock rubbed off: "I was just fascinated with seeing how Jimmy played those riffs so simply, and with Jack as well," he says"
-RS-article: "the words, which he keeps revising, have an almost hip-hop-like cadence: "Stand up, 'cause you can't sit down... Stop helping God across the road like a little old lady... Come on, you people, stand up for your love."; "We haven't quite gotten this right, and I'm the problem", Bono says of the tune, which is called "Stand Up Comedy" — at least for the moment. Tomorrow it will have new lyrics."; "the groove is slinkier than anything U2 have done in years.")

4. "Get Your Boots On"
(- Q-source: "among other instantly striking tracks"; "a heaving electro-rocker that may mark the destination point the band had been seeking on POP"
- Q-magazine: "formerly titled "Sexy Boots", this demented electro grunge employs a proto-rockn'roll riff, but propelled into the future, with a hip-hop twist in the middle. Features Bono in flirtacious, self depreciating mode: "I dont wanna talk about wars between nations""
-RS-source: "the likely first single, this blazing, fuzzed-out rocker picks up where "Vertigo" left off. "It started just with me playing and Larry drumming," the Edge recalls. "And we took it from there""
-RS-article: "with a furry monster of a fuzz-guitar riff"; "power chords that, per Bono, echo the Damned's "New Rose"; verses that share a rhythm with "Subterranean Homesick Blues"; and a chorus that mixes whimsy and ardor: "Get on your boots/Sexy boots/You don't know how beautiful you are." "A hundred fifty beats per minute, three minutes, the fastest song we've ever played," Bono says, playing the tune at deafening volume in an airy studio lounge after dinner. "We're not really ready for adult-contemporary just yet."")

5. "Winter"
(- Q-source: "featuring a fine Bono lyric about a soldier in an unspecified war zone, surrounded by a deceptively simple rhythm track and an evocative string arrangement courtesy of Eno"
- Q-magazine: "6 minute ballad. Echoes of Simon & Garfunkel in this poignant, acoustic string laden ballad about a soldier in the snow of Afghanistan. Will appear in the new film 'Brothers' starring Tobey Maguire about the emotional fallout of the war. Edge on backing vocals with Bono for Winter""
-RS-source: not mentioned
-RS-article:"lovely discarded ballad")

6. "Unknown Caller"
(- Q-source: "stately"; "was recorded in Fez and opens with the sounds of birdsong taped by Eno during a Moroccan dawn"
(- Q-magazine: "opens with the sound of birdsong recorded live in Fez. A middle eastern flavoured percussion loop drives this tale about a man"at the end of his rope" whose phone bizarrely begins texting him random instructions: "Reboot yourself","Password, enter here","You're free to go".
Dallas Schoo describes the song as "one of Edge's major solos in his life - you wont hear better than that on any other song""
- RS-source: "this midtempo track could have fit on ATYCLB. "The idea is that the narrator is in an altered state, and his phone starts talking to him," says the Edge"
-RS-article: not mentioned)

7. "Moment Of Surrender"
(- Q-source: "particular excitement was reserved for"; "a strident seven-minute epic recorded in a single take"; "sounds like a great U2 moment in the spirit of "One""
- Q-magazine: "georgiously melodic 7 minute song that already has the air of the U2 classic about it, with lyrics about dark stars and existential crises:"I did not notice the passers-by/And they did not notice me". Recorded in one take. This album's "One""
- RS-source: "this seven-minute-long track is one of the album's most ambitious, merging a TJT-style gospel feel with a hypnotically loping bass line and a syncopated beat""
-RS-article: "astonishing seven-minute"; "was played just one time — the band improvised the version on the album from thin air")

8. "Breathe"
(- Q-source: "particular excitement was reserved for"; "still a work in progress"; "Eno suggests, this is potentially both the best song the band had written and that he had worked on"
- Q-magazine: "Arabic cello gives way to joyful chorus. Brian Eno says this is U2's best ever song. It's 8pm and Eno, Bono and Will.i.am are on Olympic Studio 1 writing a cello part for a song called Breathe that U2 - a touch ambitiously - are only beginning to record in ths final fortnight, never mind mix – the singer belts out a rollicking vocal featuring door-to-door salesman, a cockatoo and a chorus that begins "Step out into the street, sing your heart out""
- RS-source: not mentioned
-RS-article: "tweaks on his computer what he (The Edge) estimates to be the 80th incarnation")

9. "No Line On The Horizon"
(- Q-source: "further unfinished"; "two versions were extant: the first is another TUF-esque slow burner that builds to a euphoric coda, the second a punky Pixies/Buzzcocks homage that proceeds at a breathless pace", "Bono very excited about the second version"
(- Q-magazine: "began life as a slow paced Eno-esque ambient treatment, before being dramatically reworked in the Olympic Sessions into an abrasive punk-rock tune akin to Vertigo, with its "No! Line!" chorus chant"
- RS-source: "the title track's relentless groove began as a group improvisation. "It's very raw and very to the point," says the Edge. "It's like rock & roll 2009""
-RS-article: "churning, tribal groove and a deadpan chorus"; ""after-dark" song"; "one of those tunes, where, Bono says, "we allow our interest in electronic music, in Can, Neu! and Kraftwerk, to come out."")

10. "Every Breaking Wave"
(- Q-source: "further unfininished"; "emotive Bono vocal and an appropriately grand swell of a climax"; "something special"
- Q-magazine: "Lillywhite cues up the track, a slow burning track called "Every Breaking Wave" that gradually builds to a climax brimming with passion and intensity. Bono begins to sing rocking forward and backwards on his studio chair – he performs a note perfect vocal that employs the movement of the ocean as a metaphor for the human struggle, before building to the plaintive line "I dont know if I'm that strong". Two takes and 10 minutes later its done. Key line "Every Sailor knows that the Sea/Is a friend made enemy""
- RS-source: "a swelling soul-pop song, with bright synth sounds influenced by OMD and, Bono says, "early electronica." "You don't hear indie bands doing blue-eyed soul [like this]," he adds"
-RS-article: not mentioned)

11. "Cedars Of Lebanon"
(- Q-source: not mentioned ...
- Q-magazine: "Daniel Lanois instigated closer that finds Bono imagining himself as a weary, lovelorn war correspondent "squeezing complicated lives into a simple headline". Ends with the possibly telling line "Choose your enemies carefully cos they will define you""
- RS-source: ""On this album, you can feel what is going on in the world at the window, scratching at the windowpane," says Bono, who sings this atmospheric ballad from the point of view of a war correspondent"
-RS-article: not mentioned)

12. "Tripoli"
(- Q-source: not mentioned ...
- Q-magazine: "Bono talks about a song called "Tripoli", which is a guy on a motorcycle, a Moraccan french cop, whos going AWOL. He drives though France and Spain down to this village outside of Cadiz where you can actually see the fires of Africa burning"
- RS-source: "this strikingly experimental song lurches between disparate styles, including near-operatic choral music, ZOOROPA-style electronics, and churning arena rock"
-RS-article: "ambitious possible album opener, which violently lurches between different sections"; ""after-dark" song"; "one of those tunes, where, Bono says, "we allow our interest in electronic music, in Can, Neu! and Kraftwerk, to come out."")
 
Your new thread got locked.... nice try, though. Sometimes I think more threads would be better so we don't have just 3-5 threads with hundreds of posts. The 3-5 main threads that are active now are all starting to meander anyways and stray off their original topics.

I would rather have 5-10 meandering threads than 100-300 on topic ones...
 

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