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Old 12-15-2017, 01:51 AM   #76
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Rick Rubin, who produced a pile of mostly unreleased U2 songs a few years back, had a major influence on this album, despite not actually working on it. Rubin told Bono that U2 use their skill at sculpting unique soundscapes "to disguise the fact that you don't have a song." He pushed them to write traditionally structured tunes that would work with, say, voice and piano. "Someone like Adele makes better records than everyone else because her songs are better," says Bono. "In a great song, you can be as naked as a streaker singing a cappella. I'm embarrassed next to someone like Carole King, unless I can come up with something that's as raw as some of her great songs. So that was it. Songwriting school!"
This was unfortunate to say the least.

It's the beautiful soundscapes that make U2 unique. Making songs that can be sung acapella or around a piano is something U2 are very good at but not "great" at. it's largely down to those the soundscapes that U2 are a great band and doesn't Bono always say that he wants to be great, not very good.

Like quite a few others feel, it's this shift into trying to create finely crafted songs that has seen my interest in their output wain a little.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:25 AM   #77
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also apparently Rick Rubin isn't even in the studio or only gives very minimal opinions when producing, so, i don't think he's that good as a producer. he just helps someone polish the songs they've got, rather than shaping the songs with them from rough ideas, which is something U2 has done since they worked with Eno and Lanois.

also I've heard James Hetfield talking about working with Rick Rubin and James said that Rick asked the band to analyze their past catalogue and use whatever worked in these songs, which just seems like.....he straight up asked to emulate their "good" past, which just doesn't seem like a right idea to me

(here's Metallica talking about the making of song "Moth Into Flame" from their last album: http://songexploder.net/metallica)
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:53 AM   #78
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Everything I've read about Rubin's production habits and U2's writing habits made their collaboration sound like it would be an enormous clash of styles, and sure enough, it was. Obviously I've largely loved the music U2 has continued to make and release since they worked with Rubin and Bono apparently took his criticisms to heart, but part of me wonders if the band should've just gone "agree to disagree" and continued to make music like they always had.
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i mean, look at this shit. he's lying in the bed in a different room from one they're tracking.
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I've been thinking lately that if SOI/SOE was put out at the same time as a double album it would have gone over better.


No one in 2017 is going to give a flying f about a double album.
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No one in 2017 is going to give a flying f about a double album.
*cough* Big Krit *cough*
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:48 PM   #82
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If u2 could release those songs from the Rubin sessions as well as demos and unreleased songs from SOE...
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:23 AM   #83
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This was unfortunate to say the least.

It's the beautiful soundscapes that make U2 unique. Making songs that can be sung acapella or around a piano is something U2 are very good at but not "great" at. it's largely down to those the soundscapes that U2 are a great band and doesn't Bono always say that he wants to be great, not very good.

Like quite a few others feel, it's this shift into trying to create finely crafted songs that has seen my interest in their output wain a little.
Absolutely agree.

The only thing this proves is that Rick Rubin has a narrow conception of what music is and that Bono is stupid enough to take his advice on board.

It's basically an insult to Brian Eno also - but tell me this, would Rick Rubin, or Paul Epworth, or Ryan Tedder - the 'conventional' producers (conventionally dull some might say) have been able to produce an album as great as Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, Zooropa?

Never in a million years have they even come close.
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The difference between Eno and Rubin, Epworth and pretty much everyone else is that Eno is a genius artist and is also skilled at getting the best out of his collaborators. He's an amazing guy.

Epworth is a good producer though: Thurston Moore's new one sounds great, and if U2 want to record a live sounding album he'd be a good choice.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:30 PM   #85
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Man, I love Soon. Those swoony descending strings!
Wow I forgot about Soon.... Whatta great song hopefully it will show up in the future.
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As the opening track to a resequenced No Line reissue with alt takes and unreleased songs
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As the opening track to a resequenced No Line reissue with alt takes and unreleased songs
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Old 12-24-2017, 06:34 PM   #88
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Since it will more than likely be at least 5 years before the next album with all new songs, I hope that after the E&I tour ends that U2 releases at least an EP of 5 or 6 songs to holdover the hardcore fans until the next album.

If the EP is released at the end of 2019, it will help bridge the waiting. U2 could look at all of the songs it has created but not released and throw 6 of them on a record without worrying about how they fit together or their various production styles since the release would not be considered the next big thing from the band.

Potential candidates that may please many hardcore fans could be the following:
1) A Boy Falls from the Sky (U2 version)
2) Mercy (original 2004 version). This would please Mercy fans and Mercy haters alike by bringing joy/closure since fans would have to stop wondering/whining about when the band would officially release this version.
3) North Star (not the Transformers version)
4) I'll Believe Her When She Sings (the song Bono raved about that was produced by RedOne)
5) Treason (if it really exists, the long-rumored Dr. Dre collaboration)
6) Andy Barlow said that the band had about 60 songs either done or nearly done for this album. There must be one or two songs that U2 could part with.

What do you guys think?
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I like ur ideas but Soon must appear.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:56 PM   #90
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I think we could get a new album as early as 2020. Assuming they finish the e+i tour in H1 2019 (gut says it will end up being 60-70 shows)
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