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Old 07-07-2008, 08:18 AM   #91
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I agree with U2. It's easier to make dark music than happy music. Everytime bands start copying them, U2 goes in another direction and beats the competition. When Radiohead came out with dark ambient albums at the turn of the century U2 went in the emotionally healing direction stealing their thunder. People can get tired of bleak music, and that music eventually sets people up for being hungry for U2. Radiohead's new album is great, and Coldplay's is good, but ultimately they leave audiences hungry for U2.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:47 AM   #92
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Yes, I remember Bono saying the exact same thing during the writing of ATYCLB. He said he wanted to be precise and direct in his writing. Adam Clayton also verified this in another interview (believe it was in Rolling Stone). I don't remember where these interviews were from, and I don't have access to them since I don't know where they were from, but I do remember exactly what you are saying here being expressed on more than one occasion. Later Bono also alluded that his direct writing style was a reflection of where he was spiritually. Precision and direct writing comes from understanding yourself spiritually (to paraphrase) was his main point. This was in reference to ATYCLB.
While the writing style of the last 2 albums were more precise and direct, I preferred it when they thought they had the answers, but it was the questions they had wrong.
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Old 07-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #93
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Well, it's a known fact that WTSHNN took a hell of a long time to record and get the right takes; quite a bit of work indeed for a 4 chord song, and yet some would say their greatest achievement, at least within their best work...
most of their music took a lot of work
my point is that with their best work they make it SOUND like it wasn't work at all

when I listen to How to dismantle .... it seems to me that you can hear that it took a lot of hard work to get there


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I agree with U2. It's easier to make dark music than happy music. Everytime bands start copying them, U2 goes in another direction and beats the competition. When Radiohead came out with dark ambient albums at the turn of the century U2 went in the emotionally healing direction stealing their thunder. People can get tired of bleak music, and that music eventually sets people up for being hungry for U2. Radiohead's new album is great, and Coldplay's is good, but ultimately they leave audiences hungry for U2.
Reading this makes my day.
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I think U2's downfall will be Adam's love for underage girls. That's right folks, he's pedokiss.
Lay off the sideswipes, eh? Besides being against the forum rules, it's really getting old.
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I agree with U2. It's easier to make dark music than happy music. Everytime bands start copying them, U2 goes in another direction and beats the competition. When Radiohead came out with dark ambient albums at the turn of the century U2 went in the emotionally healing direction stealing their thunder. People can get tired of bleak music, and that music eventually sets people up for being hungry for U2. Radiohead's new album is great, and Coldplay's is good, but ultimately they leave audiences hungry for U2.
I agree with most of this. Except you got it backward: Coldplay's new album is great whilst Radiohead's is simply good.
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Here's the one key word in this thread 'downfall'....are we in that period of U2's career? Two highly acclaimed, multi-platinum selling albums and two of their top grossing tours in the past 8 years?

Where's the downfall in that...
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Here's the one key word in this thread 'downfall'....are we in that period of U2's career? Two highly acclaimed, multi-platinum selling albums and two of their top grossing tours in the past 8 years?

Where's the downfall in that...
Yeah, I'd imagine any thread called U2's Downfall is bound to be inevitably ridiculous. They've been around for 30 years. There ain't gonna be no blasted downfall.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:50 PM   #99
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Yeah, I'd imagine any thread called U2's Downfall is bound to be inevitably ridiculous. They've been around for 30 years. There ain't gonna be no blasted downfall.
I agree. U2 will stop when THEY want to. If the Rolling Stones still have fans then U2 certainly will.
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Perhaps, because of my age. I like ATYCLB. It is my second favorite album.

Beautiful Day is uplifting to me. It sounds great in the car. Possibly a cure for road rage!

Walk On....one of the best love songs, Bono has ever written.

Kite reminds me of losing my father.

When, I Look at the World....I love that song. For me, it can mean many things. Hopes of what kind of world your children or grandchildren will inhabit. Loses in life, love possibly old friends you have lost touch with. Or being cynical about the world around you.

Peace on Earth reminds me of 9/11
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I agree with most of this. Except you got it backward: Coldplay's new album is great whilst Radiohead's is simply good.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:34 PM   #102
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most of their music took a lot of work
my point is that with their best work they make it SOUND like it wasn't work at all

when I listen to How to dismantle .... it seems to me that you can hear that it took a lot of hard work to get there


I agree with your premise, but AB sounds pretty labored to me, but that's the beauty of it, too. That one was a difficult birth as well, but it seemed like the conflict and tension was part of the overall story of that record.
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I agree with most of this. Except you got it backward: Coldplay's new album is great whilst Radiohead's is simply good.
I personally think In Rainbows is like #2 to Ok Computer. Coldplay's album is nice especially "Strawberry Swing" but it's a little hollow because Chris Martin rips everyone off so much that there's little to chew on after a few listens. I find myself still listening to Radiohead after almost a year, and I don't feel too much like listening to Viva la vida. Yes they are more happy sounding than those sad sacks Radiohead, but very little on Coldplay's album can come close to "All I Need" or "Reckoner" for soul or some kind of emotion. Radiohead is a repeat listen. I know a lot of younger people are behind Coldplay because they usually don't like older bands, but in another 2 or 3 albums they won't be young. I actually think A Rush of Blood to the head is their best so far.

I agree with Chris Martin himself that U2 and Radiohead are better than they are. Chris is honest. Maybe Chris should get Danny Lanois AND Eno for the next album?

It's all personal taste to me. U2 is going to wipe the floor with both of them anyways
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:10 PM   #104
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I personally think In Rainbows is like #2 to Ok Computer. Coldplay's album is nice especially "Strawberry Swing" but it's a little hollow because Chris Martin rips everyone off so much that there's little to chew on after a few listens. I find myself still listening to Radiohead after almost a year, and I don't feel too much like listening to Viva la vida. Yes they are more happy sounding than those sad sacks Radiohead, but very little on Coldplay's album can come close to "All I Need" or "Reckoner" for soul or some kind of emotion. Radiohead is a repeat listen. I know a lot of younger people are behind Coldplay because they usually don't like older bands, but in another 2 or 3 albums they won't be young. I actually think A Rush of Blood to the head is their best so far.

I agree with Chris Martin himself that U2 and Radiohead are better than they are. Chris is honest. Maybe Chris should get Danny Lanois AND Eno for the next album?

It's all personal taste to me. U2 is going to wipe the floor with both of them anyways
I wish I was that optimistic... I like In Rainbows and Viva la Vida much more than the last two U2 albums...
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