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Old 12-28-2017, 06:35 AM   #1
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Songs of Experience 37 - now with bonus orchestra

The last thread had sailed past the 1,000 post mark, so I thought I'd start a new one with an orchestra and film it for the BBC. Get ready to torrent the heavily-edited Canadian version tomorrow.
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"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

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Old 12-28-2017, 07:13 AM   #2
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New thread is already too girly.
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New thread is already too girly.
Shall we squeeze in some Kendrick raps as an interlude between posts so that the thread meets Bono's criteria for manliness?
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Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
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It was a sexist thing to say, and there is no valid defense for it. But he has shown to care deeply about women's rights, and this is very minor in comparison. I get annoyed by it, but I take solace in that he'll learn his lesson, if not from any backlash then probably from his wife and daughters.

As a non native english speaker I didn’t catch all the nuances. I think he meant that majority of today’s pop is consumed by teenage girls through Spotify and Musicaly and it’s very polished ”safe” sounding music. Teenager boys don’t have new bands that they could channel their angst like I did when I was younger: Iron Maiden, Metallica, Nirvana. But that it just how I understood his words. Also, I fear that the way we read comments today has changed for worse. Everything is always processed first through this question: should I be offended by this? And that follows: is this enough to valid a social media shit storm?
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It was a sexist thing to say, and there is no valid defense for it. But he has shown to care deeply about women's rights, and this is very minor in comparison. I get annoyed by it, but I take solace in that he'll learn his lesson, if not from any backlash then probably from his wife and daughters.

As a non native english speaker I didn’t catch all the nuances. I think he meant that majority of today’s pop is consumed by teenage girls through Spotify and Musicaly and it’s very polished ”safe” sounding music. Teenager boys don’t have new bands that they could channel their angst like I did when I was younger: Iron Maiden, Metallica, Nirvana. But that it just how I understood his words. Also, I fear that the way we read comments today has changed for worse. Everything is always processed first through this question: should I be offended by this? And that follows: is this enough to valid a social media shit storm?
To answer your question, yes. It's enough for a social media shit storm. It takes only a hint of a breeze to stir the dust or outrage.

That's how I understood his words too - what he meant was pretty clear. It's absurd to me that that, the least interesting part of a very good interview, is what people are talking about. It's almost like the internet is nothing more that a vehicle to express outrage. I wonder if anyone's noticed that before! Maybe Jon Ronson should write a book about it, maybe focus on shaming...

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I think music has gotten very girly. And there are some good things about that, but hip-hop is the only place for young male anger at the moment – and that's not good.
People can get angry about that if they want to be angry (and ignore the second sentence, particularly the first part), but will they then give praise where it's due?

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Women are stepping to the forefront. Our lead campaign at the moment is called Poverty Is Sexist. And there is another one called Girls Count.
Probably not. That's not what the internet does, even though the last three quotes are more notable and important than saying something is girly (and then explaining what he means).
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So Little Things will be on the extended version of U2 at the BBC tonight. That’s great news, didn’t realise they also played that song.
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What's the most legit way for us USAlings to see the BBC special?
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It was a sexist thing to say, and there is no valid defense for it. But he has shown to care deeply about women's rights, and this is very minor in comparison. I get annoyed by it, but I take solace in that he'll learn his lesson, if not from any backlash then probably from his wife and daughters.

As a non native english speaker I didn’t catch all the nuances. I think he meant that majority of today’s pop is consumed by teenage girls through Spotify and Musicaly and it’s very polished ”safe” sounding music. Teenager boys don’t have new bands that they could channel their angst like I did when I was younger: Iron Maiden, Metallica, Nirvana. But that it just how I understood his words. Also, I fear that the way we read comments today has changed for worse. Everything is always processed first through this question: should I be offended by this? And that follows: is this enough to valid a social media shit storm?
Easy solution

He should have said "rock music today is very safe"

Then we could all be having a pissing concert over U2 calling the kettle black with the same comment rather than this girly music discussion.
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So Little Things will be on the extended version of U2 at the BBC tonight. That’s great news, didn’t realise they also played that song.
Where did you see that information ?
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