SOE 18: New Tour, New Despair...
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U2 are now Grandpa Simpson. "I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it', and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you."
trevgreg
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Oh, I knew what you meant. Just yanking your chain a bit and being more obvious than I had to be.
And agreed that the approach will be interesting for what they might be trying to do this spring, based on the 'rehearsals' thing and all.
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, perhaps?If they want to chase pop hits, Max Martin
Compared to, say, the Max Martins or the Dr. Lukes of the world, I don't think having the band work with Tedder is/was actually all that out of the ordinary. Both sides have always had a bit of their feet in the pop-rock world, use lots of I–V–vi–IV progressions in their work, and so on. If they wanted to go directly to the pure 'modern pop' route, I'm pretty sure we would have seen a will.i.am collaboration come about way back when.
Even then, I sort of remember when it was announced that Danger Mouse was producing some material with the band, and even a few people on here weren't quite warm to the notion of that. Until they heard Sleep Like a Baby Tonight and the final version of The Troubles, then all of a sudden the "Danger Mouse 2013 album" became the "early NLOTH" album in these parts!
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"It'll happen to U2!!"
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By "hip U2 to good new artists" I mean introduce them to those bands.
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OneRepublic now = Take That then
womanfish
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Ok. So i took a little stroll down memory lane yesterday and was watching some zootv era youtube clips, with interviews, specials, etc...
It was really something. This band is incredibly strange in it's progression. So during the rolling stone interview, Bono talks about using instinct first and intellect second.
That really worked for them for a long time. But now it seems when they went back to "songwriting" and being able to play the songs acoustically type of thing, it seems that it's almost backward from that view.
Then he says... I'm not so sure we are a rock n roll band anymore. I'm not sure what it is we've turned into, but whatever it is, it has to be able to take on anything it wants to.
I mean, this was the band that had JUST delved completely into the roots of rock n' roll, blues, etc.. just a few years earlier. Pretty crazy.
Obviously shedding the straight rock thing worked for them well for a while as well (AB, Zooropa). If they had continued down that road, even after taking their licks with POP, would they have gone on for further critical greatness, or would they have burned out? I don't know. I mean going back to the basics on ATYCLB brought them a whole newfound popularity. But it also seemed to bring a blandness through the 2000's, that they have yet to fully break from.
Either way, i do miss that swagger that they had at the time.
I think about that cool "SOE being born" clip that Adam shared probably nearly a year ago now. The sound there gave me some real hope as to a different, tougher direction. It's really difficult to know what we are going to get. I'm always hopeful and eager to see what happens.
It was really something. This band is incredibly strange in it's progression. So during the rolling stone interview, Bono talks about using instinct first and intellect second.
That really worked for them for a long time. But now it seems when they went back to "songwriting" and being able to play the songs acoustically type of thing, it seems that it's almost backward from that view.
Then he says... I'm not so sure we are a rock n roll band anymore. I'm not sure what it is we've turned into, but whatever it is, it has to be able to take on anything it wants to.
I mean, this was the band that had JUST delved completely into the roots of rock n' roll, blues, etc.. just a few years earlier. Pretty crazy.
Obviously shedding the straight rock thing worked for them well for a while as well (AB, Zooropa). If they had continued down that road, even after taking their licks with POP, would they have gone on for further critical greatness, or would they have burned out? I don't know. I mean going back to the basics on ATYCLB brought them a whole newfound popularity. But it also seemed to bring a blandness through the 2000's, that they have yet to fully break from.
Either way, i do miss that swagger that they had at the time.
I think about that cool "SOE being born" clip that Adam shared probably nearly a year ago now. The sound there gave me some real hope as to a different, tougher direction. It's really difficult to know what we are going to get. I'm always hopeful and eager to see what happens.
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What the...
That doesn't make sense, unless they announce SOE AND dates for the tour that are NOT the EU or US. I suppose this is possible, but the timetable is slightly confusing.
prbiker15
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It's clearly going to be more Joshua Tree shows. Can't see them announcing shows for another tour when one hasn't even started.
Registered Dude
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U2songs is the most reliable fansite when it comes to rumors. It's the old u2wanderer.org team.
They also hinted at the RHMT single before it was known. Good sources.
They also hinted at the RHMT single before it was known. Good sources.
the_fly189
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There are rumors of shows in Argentina around October.. maybe South America will get the SOE tour first.
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Huh. Very interesting then.
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Wait. I thought U2Valencia was the one stop shop for U2 rumors!!
Mack_Again
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what do you think of this lawsuit about U2 stealing riffs of the Fly from that musician i never heard of before?
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speaking of U2songs, they just wrote a terrific piece about JT demos. I wrote about it on EYKIW
http://www.u2interference.com/forum...snippets-this-is-new-stuff-amigos-220781.html
they link to a a ton of demo stuff I've not heard before, save for, like, 20 seconds .. holy shit.
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TinKnight
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Which makes a loooooot of sense, puzzle piece-wise.
corianderstem
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All you ever talk about is yourself. Jeez.
If that rumor is true, I will faint from shock.
U2 doesn't like risks. That's why it takes them years and years to release new work. But to move forward you have to make mistakes/failures !
We've only got two (not very experimental) albums this decade so far and they've been on the studio for years. The band had lost its guts long time ago. Sadly....
Agree, because they are chasing something that they just won't get (or there's such a small chance, the odds are heavily stacked against them). They want ONE MORE HIT.
I'm not gonna get hopes up about SOE. I think it'll go down the same path as any recorded music with Rick Rubin.
I'm not gonna get hopes up about SOE. I think it'll go down the same path as any recorded music with Rick Rubin.
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One studio album this decade, dawg.
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U2songs are so good, they certainly know their stuff, found myself visiting them a lot more this past year or so.
nice little interview with someone from the brass band on RHMT here too.
that Joshua Tree article is really great, I'd never heard those short clips you mentioned (and forgot about "Move Out", still sounds pretty cool)
you did, however, get me pretty excited at first. given the date on that video I thought these were newly unearthed snippets, like preview clips you get on iTunes, that had been leaked from some upcoming reissue!
didn't realise they were from a guy trying to sell the tapes in 1996!
JamietheEdgefan
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Whilst awesome in theory, this just doesn't add up to me. If I&E tour dates are close to being announced (let's say, within a month or two), that would presumably involve announcing SoE as well. And i just can't see how U2 would be able to promote SoE and the Joshua Tree tour at the same time.
I mean, as some have suggested, they could use the Joshua Tree shows as a promo tour for SoE (it would actually make sense as SoE is thematically based on TJT period, and the crowd at these gigs would likely be more receptive than usual because of the emphasis on U2's most popular album). But if that were the case, wouldn't they have announced the JT tour and SoE together?
And when would the I&E shows be? If they're in the rumoured October slot, in South America, that leaves just August and September for U2 to have a summer vacation, release a single, release SoE, and do a promo tour before going back into the I&E tour. And if the shows are for early 2018, would they really be announced around now, before the JT tour has even started?
I really want this to be true, and I'm sure no one's lying... but none of this adds up.
superchuk5
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A tour within a tour. Two levels. JT 2017 is U2 doing Inception on their fans.
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