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SOE 18: New Tour, New Despair...
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"There isn't a horse called nitwit! You're the nitwit!"
This fits with my theory of iHeart and Dreamforce being the start of a new album promo tour, and these gigs possibly having already been booked for the new album.
JamietheEdgefan
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Can anyone scan/find a scan of the article? I know there's one on atu2, but the resolution is so low it's unreadable.
standrums
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Geez... this guy has anger issues U2 and Trump: 5 times Bono's narcissism frustrated the hell out of me | Metro News
Registered Dude
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thanks for these.. some highlights related to SOE:
- Confirmation that Andy Barlow and Jolyon Thomas are the primary producers, with Lillywhite joining in September '16
- Adam says (referencing ie tour) "In the first 30 minutes of the show we played what was essentially the punk rock part of our story. There was a visceral energy to that materiel. That sort of energy is rare these days and we thought we'd really like to do something with that, so that's one of the things we've been trying to capture with this record"
- Edge says they booked rehearsal space last fall to work out live arrangements"before setting them to stone" in the studio. This delayed the record
That last bullet is a very good thing, I think
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what stands out about that Q interview more than anything else is the thing that isn't there... JT30
There's talk of a failure of the songs to come together in a live setting. There's talk of the changing political winds in the US, UK and throughout Europe and how they feel they should respond somehow. There's talk of trying to capture the "punk rock" portion of the I/E setlist on the new record (the first four songs, your Electric Co, I Will Follow... sigh... Miracle, Vertigo, et al).
But not a single mention of the Joshua Tree, it's impending 30th anniversary, or plans to tour the album in honor of said anniversary.
Another sign that this was less "let's try and fleece some extra dollars from our fans before we release the new album" and more "ah shit, we've boxed ourselves into a corner again... quick, figure something out so that we don't have to cancel these gigs"
There's talk of a failure of the songs to come together in a live setting. There's talk of the changing political winds in the US, UK and throughout Europe and how they feel they should respond somehow. There's talk of trying to capture the "punk rock" portion of the I/E setlist on the new record (the first four songs, your Electric Co, I Will Follow... sigh... Miracle, Vertigo, et al).
But not a single mention of the Joshua Tree, it's impending 30th anniversary, or plans to tour the album in honor of said anniversary.
Another sign that this was less "let's try and fleece some extra dollars from our fans before we release the new album" and more "ah shit, we've boxed ourselves into a corner again... quick, figure something out so that we don't have to cancel these gigs"
Hewson
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That's one way of putting it.
Irvine511
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people get way too cynical about the band sometimes, to the point where it becomes naive.
they probably don't know what the fuck is going on half the time. sure, they have goals and an idea of what they want, but they are probably still making it up as they go to a large degree, and have the luxury of pulling out when it doesn't feel right.
so to speak.
Seriously to me if they really changed their creative plans because of current events that is so depressing. u2 is supposed to be an escape from my worries. Constant. Always there.
I love u2. Howard stern. The patriots. Hamilton. And trump has put his stink on all of them in some way. So annoying to me.
I really don't want to go to this tour and hear any political stuff. I want to hear hope. And talk of the future. I want those 2 hours to be safe from twitter land. I want Bono to see what I see which is that life is getting better for people even when it appears the world is ending.
I don't believe in the no win scenario.
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I love u2. Howard stern. The patriots. Hamilton. And trump has put his stink on all of them in some way. So annoying to me.
I really don't want to go to this tour and hear any political stuff. I want to hear hope. And talk of the future. I want those 2 hours to be safe from twitter land. I want Bono to see what I see which is that life is getting better for people even when it appears the world is ending.
I don't believe in the no win scenario.
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ascender_RS
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It always makes me smile to think that all these guys have to do in life as a job is to make new music and tour. And yet sometimes this proves to be a very difficult project to plan....
It's been mentioned again in the last week, but you do wonder what music we'd have heard over the years if there was less of a veto system in place. I guess it's the curse of having four band me,bees equal in everything.
It's been mentioned again in the last week, but you do wonder what music we'd have heard over the years if there was less of a veto system in place. I guess it's the curse of having four band me,bees equal in everything.
Irvine511
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based on what Bono said in his U2.com interview, i think that's what we're going to get.
i'm saying they likely had these dates locked in ahead of time as part of a potential SOE tour, and had to backtrack once they knew it wasn't going to happen... and decided on JT30 either on their own or with a little help from Live Nation to avoid, once again, canceling booked gigs like they did in 2016.
Dragonfave
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I call it what it is.
Also, the "relevant" sellout rockdinoland tour ? This is a rather short tour. If U2 can't sell out these few shows, they can truly roll over and quit.
People are interested in a famous old album. No kidding. And how many of those interested in JT30 know and/or care about SOE being worked on ?
Ergo, bad comparison. People caring more about SOE than JT would be pretty much unheard of in rock.
Relevance isn't whether or not people are interested in your new work, it's whether your new work can capture the times you're writing about ( U2 reacting to Trump with new versions of Desire and Bullet and more time to write on SOE).
Hewson
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Perhaps an ad for his 2nd plastic surgeon, the one who fixed the butchery of the first guy.
INSTCUWSUMVC
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I think we get a single and release date when the TJT Tour starts and the album is out as soon as it ends. TJT Tour is the SOE promo imo
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Looks experiencey
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zoopop
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Yeah. Sounds like he's gonna do more listening then ranting during the tour. He wants a night out about the music. Bringing people together.
U2 (Bono) knows there are alot of U2 fans that are Trump supporters and he doesn't want to rattle any cages during these shows. U2 is gonna rebuild their image this summer to get SOE release with open arms vs folded arms. And by rebuilding I mean blowing everyone away!!!
Based on that article it sounds like U2 is gonna play some new songs live!
What a political cop-out. They go from openly criticizing Trump to worrying about offending half the audience? Is Bullet just going to be played straight now? This tour is grabbing Bono by the...
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elevated_u2_fan
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it's clearly a photo shoot for Larry's new Solo album
Registered Dude
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Irvine511
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probably not too many, i would think it's that he wouldn't want to be annoying or insufferable about stuff his audience likely already agrees with.
that's a leap.
i don't think the U2 audience are at all likely to be Trump voters, and what Bono made clear in the interview was that we need to understand why this happened -- and it was more than just Trump, Europe has it's own far right neo-fascist anti-global populist movements to deal with at present. so it's more a global concern than something specific to Red State America. of course, Trump is the most obvious symptom of this cancer, but it's more than just Trump.
elevated_u2_fan
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its going to sound like a cross between AB, Passengers and POP just to fuck with all the people who complain about how he is the "safe" member in the group
both pics taken at Hannover Quay, so hopefully there's some studio time going on...
zoopop
Rock n' Roll Doggie
This was before the election but if they do it during this tour....
Just sucks everything is so PC now! People just can't take criticism or one's opinion.
I wish U2 will stick to their guns and voice/vent but audiences in 2017 are just different now than 10 years ago
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