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Old 10-05-2017, 02:21 PM   #1
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Preliminary Head to Head - SOI - SOE

So for a distraction from discussing the finer details of offensive slang. I thought we could do a little rating of the songs we know from SOE, against similar songs from SOI.

I tried to group some songs together that fall into sort of the same vein... and go from there. Feel free to add other songs if you think they have a similar feel to them.

1. The Best Thing – 7
2. California – 7
3. SFS – 5
(If The Crystal Ballroom could be included, it would be number 1 with about an 8.5 rating)

1. The Blackout - 8
2. RBW – 8
3. Volcano - 7
4. The Miracle - 6

1. The Troubles – 9
2. EBW – 9
3. Iris - 7
4. Little Things – 6 in it’s current state – I’m hoping for at least a 7 with the album version…


Have at it.
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... we've heard one song.
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:28 PM   #3
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... we've heard one song.
I’ve not listened to Blackout for weeks because of the quality of the mix - it is what it is, but I can’t judge it against album versions of songs.

Same for Little Things... especially when you consider how they’ve treated You’re The Best Thing - three (I think) mixes of it, one done the night before the dealing - and Edge has said there’s still some tinkering to be done on the album.

Plus, I must be getting old because acronyms for albums are great and easy to remember, but for a lot of the song titles they just confuse my brain immensely. I’ve never understood the obsession with them, apart from obviously confirming your status as an überfan.

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sorry, fun, speculative discussion isn't permitted here!

Sonics aside, I think you can rate songs based on the songwriting, and if/how they move you. I wont try and group them

SOE:
Best Thing - 6
Blackout - 7
Little Things - 7

SOI:
Miracle - 5
EBW - 7
California - 7
SFS - 3
Iris - 5
Volcanco - 6
RBW - 7
Cedarwood - 9
SLABT - 7
Reach Me Now - 8
Troubles - 9

Average SOE score: 6.7
Average SOI score: 6.6
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It's pre-pre-speculative. We've only heard two songs in decent audio quality.
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SOE:
Best Thing - 8
Blackout - 8 but need to hear studio
Little Things - 7 but need to hear studio

SOI:
Miracle - 7
EBW - 10
California - 7
SFS - 8
Iris - 6
Volcanco - 7
RBW - 6
Cedarwood - 5
SLABT - 7
Reach Me Now - 7
Troubles - 6
Crystal Ballroom- 8
Lucifer’s Hands- 5
SLAB Alternate- 6
Troubles Alternate- 3 (only true misfire)
EBW Acoustic - 7
All other acoustics are meh (5s)




So I like what I hear of Blackout because t let’s be honest the crowd noise plus the (purposely) less than ideal recording means this song can be a lot better or worse on the album. Same goes for Little Things.

I did not like TBT the first time I heard it but I am really enjoying it now. I with someone would put up a poll rating it but I do think my 8 is a little higher than the likely consensus around here which I would put at a 6/7.

As for SOI, it’s no secret that I really like that album but some of the songs have come down a little over the past few years for me. The album has a lot of solid songs but very few great songs(EBW is one and SFS comes close).
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sorry, fun, speculative discussion isn't permitted here!

Sonics aside, I think you can rate songs based on the songwriting, and if/how they move you. I wont try and group them

SOE:
Best Thing - 6
Blackout - 7
Little Things - 7

SOI:
Miracle - 5
EBW - 7
California - 7
SFS - 3
Iris - 5
Volcanco - 6
RBW - 7
Cedarwood - 9
SLABT - 7
Reach Me Now - 8
Troubles - 9

Average SOE score: 6.7
Average SOI score: 6.6
It's not speculative... we've heard one song. One.
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It's not speculative... we've heard one song. One.
The word speculative speaks for itself. We have heard 3 songs. Two we know will have a different slant on the proper studio version, one we probably have the final album version of, but aren't even sure on that.

I call it preliminary because its how we are feeling about the 3 songs NOW, in their current state, as compared to our feelings on SOI songs. Preliminary meaning, we all know that there will be another thread come December 1 or 2 on how we will compare SOE songs with SOI songs. Even that will be preliminary since we have sat with SOI for 3 years and we will have sat with SOE for 3 hours.

Just would rather talk about this than pages of if the Edge used a backing track on 15 seconds of a song or how certain words hurt people's feelings on different levels...
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SOE:
Best Thing - 8
Blackout - 8 but need to hear studio
Little Things - 7 but need to hear studio



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Just would rather talk about this than pages of if the Edge used a backing track on 15 seconds of a song or how certain words hurt people's feelings on different levels...

How about not talk at all? Or find something else to do? Go read a news article.
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How about not talk at all? Or find something else to do? Go read a news article.
Thank you for making my point of what Preliminary means.
Seems like you wouldn't even need to comment if you're not interested in speculating
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The word speculative speaks for itself. We have heard 3 songs. Two we know will have a different slant on the proper studio version, one we probably have the final album version of, but aren't even sure on that.

I call it preliminary because its how we are feeling about the 3 songs NOW, in their current state, as compared to our feelings on SOI songs. Preliminary meaning, we all know that there will be another thread come December 1 or 2 on how we will compare SOE songs with SOI songs. Even that will be preliminary since we have sat with SOI for 3 years and we will have sat with SOE for 3 hours.

Just would rather talk about this than pages of if the Edge used a backing track on 15 seconds of a song or how certain words hurt people's feelings on different levels...
I mean... fine, okay.

We've heard one song. We know full well that these guys can change their minds, change entire song structures and what not even up to the last hours before they put the album to bed.

We've heard one song that we absolutely 100% know will be on the album, in that form. We've heard two songs that will probably be on the album in some form or another, but a) we haven't seen a track list, so minds can change, and b) god knows what the actual tracks will look like when they're released.

So a thread comparing a full album plus 2 b sides to one track and two maybes is less speculative and more pulling shit out of one's ass. But hey, have at it.
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1. The Best Thing – 5/10
2. SFS - 4/10
3. California – 3/10

1. The Blackout - 6.5/10
2. Volcano - 6/10
3. RBW - 6/10
4. The Miracle - 4/10

1. The Troubles – 8/10
2. EBW – 7/10
3. Little Things – 7/10
4. Iris - 3/10
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