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Moment of Surrender (Unofficial E°89 Single Mix)

Info:
It's been rumoured that Moment of Surrender will be the forthcoming last single from U2's most recent album No Line On The Horizon, so I decided to make a strictly unofficial/unauthorized single mix candidate out of the 7 minute and 24 second album version of the song, making it more fit for radio airplay. To achieve this, I shortened the intro and outro, increased the playback speed by 5% - to give a little more "go" - and omitted the fifth verse since I didn't think it contributed to the overall mood as much as the other lyrical content. U2 themselves omitted the third verse which I happen to like so I kept it.

To accompany the audio I have been trying to use shots from Fez, Morocco as much as possible and to minimize footage where the 360° Tour set-up has been visible to stay true to that goal. Keep in mind that this has been my first major adventure using Sony Vegas Pro 9 to edit and export a music video in HD-format so don't expect wonders from me, ok? =).
YouTube - U2 - Moment of Surrender (Unofficial E°89 Single Mix)
I urge you to watch the video in HD if your computer can handle that.

Preview thumbnails:
u2mose89thumbs200912141.jpg

Duration: 05 minutes 41 seconds
Format: High Definition MP4
  • Video: MPEG4 Video (H264)
  • Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 125Kbps
Resolution: 1280x720 29.97fps
Size: 88.35 MB

Download links:

Send me an e-mail or PM, I'm not sure if it's allowed to be shared here?

Happy Christmas and a Happy New Year U2010!
//Edge89

Great job! Why not send it off to U2? Could be a long shot, but no harm trying!
 
Moment of Surrender (Unofficial E°89 Single Mix)

Info:
It's been rumoured that Moment of Surrender will be the forthcoming last single from U2's most recent album No Line On The Horizon, so I decided to make a strictly unofficial/unauthorized single mix candidate out of the 7 minute and 24 second album version of the song, making it more fit for radio airplay. To achieve this, I shortened the intro and outro, increased the playback speed by 5% - to give a little more "go" - and omitted the fifth verse since I didn't think it contributed to the overall mood as much as the other lyrical content. U2 themselves omitted the third verse which I happen to like so I kept it.

To accompany the audio I have been trying to use shots from Fez, Morocco as much as possible and to minimize footage where the 360° Tour set-up has been visible to stay true to that goal. Keep in mind that this has been my first major adventure using Sony Vegas Pro 9 to edit and export a music video in HD-format so don't expect wonders from me, ok? =).
YouTube - U2 - Moment of Surrender (Unofficial E°89 Single Mix)
I urge you to watch the video in HD if your computer can handle that.

Preview thumbnails:
u2mose89thumbs200912141.jpg

Duration: 05 minutes 41 seconds

Format: High Definition MP4
  • Video: MPEG4 Video (H264)
  • Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 125Kbps
Resolution: 1280x720 29.97fps
Size: 88.35 MB

Download links:
Send me an e-mail or PM, I'm not sure if it's allowed to be shared here?

Happy Christmas and a Happy New Year U2010!
//Edge89

Good job; I like it!
 
so is this thing going to get released or not?

One month to the day later, thought it would be appropriate to ask the question again--any definitive word on this? I'm suspecting that it may never happen because U2 can't find a satisfactory edit of it but, c'mon, we just gotta have one last single from NLOTH...
 
Folks, face it: One year after being published, the album has disappointed management & band regarding sales and acceptance. The singles did not do better. NLOTH is plain dead now. From an album as dead as this there won't be any other single. "Game Over" for this record, hope for the next ...
 
Folks, face it: One year after being published, the album has disappointed management & band regarding sales and acceptance. The singles did not do better. NLOTH is plain dead now. From an album as dead as this there won't be any other single. "Game Over" for this record, hope for the next ...

In terms of popular acceptance, yes. In terms of quality, you seem to be blinded by preordained hated and project that on everyone else in the world save for the demographic of people who have listened to the album most.
 
i could care less about sales and acceptance, it's still my 3rd favorite U2 album. that's the stat that matter most to me.
 
In terms of popular acceptance, yes. In terms of quality, you seem to be blinded by preordained hated and project that on everyone else in the world

Wow, thanx for your words. What an analysis:hmm:

Now:
From Spinner magazine - 10/23/09
(U2 Disappointed by 'No Line' Only Going Platinum Once)

...
Any band these days would love to sell a million records, but for U2, that high number is not enough. The multi-platinum rockers told the Associated Press that they're displeased with the sales of their latest album, No Line on the Horizon. Recent U2 albums have been selling in the three to four million range, while No Line has only broken the million mark. Bono and company see factors such as the lack of a hit song and the fickle public's need for a "diet of pop" are contributing to this so-called slump.

"We weren't really in that mindset," Bono said about the lack of a commercial hit from No Line. "We felt that the album was a kind of an almost extinct species, and we should approach it in totality and create a mood and a feeling, and a beginning, middle and an end. And I suppose we've made a work that is a bit challenging."

"The commercial challenges have to be confronted," bassist Adam Clayton said. "But I think, in a sense, the more interesting challenge is, 'What is rock 'n' roll in this changing world?' Because, to some extent, the concept of the music fan -- the concept of the person who buys music and listens to music for the pleasure of music itself -- is an outdated idea."

That said, this isn't the first time that U2 is failing their own high expectations. ...


The Guardian writes a few days later on the same occasion (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/oct/26/u2-bono-disappointed-album-sales):
...
Despite having sold 1m copies of their latest album, U2 are disappointed with sales of No Line On the Horizon, Bono has admitted. As the band's lowest-selling CD in more than a decade, their frontmanbelieves the album does not cater to the public's "diet of pop".
Although it debuted in March at the top of the charts, No Line On the Horizon has seen less than a third of the sales of 2004's How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, and one quarter of the 4.3m copies that 2000's All That You Can't Leave Behind has sold. The biggest problem is perhaps the band's lack of a new hit – lead single Get On Your Boots peaked at No 12 in the UK and No 37 in the US.
"[We didn't] pull off the pop songs," Bono admitted. ...

Of course, you are allowed to dream on, @digitize, dream on ...:doh:
But, you see, the band does not share your quality view. They define quality in a different way!
 
Wow, thanx for your words. What an analysis:hmm:

Now:
From Spinner magazine - 10/23/09
(U2 Disappointed by 'No Line' Only Going Platinum Once)

...
Any band these days would love to sell a million records, but for U2, that high number is not enough. The multi-platinum rockers told the Associated Press that they're displeased with the sales of their latest album, No Line on the Horizon. Recent U2 albums have been selling in the three to four million range, while No Line has only broken the million mark. Bono and company see factors such as the lack of a hit song and the fickle public's need for a "diet of pop" are contributing to this so-called slump.

"We weren't really in that mindset," Bono said about the lack of a commercial hit from No Line. "We felt that the album was a kind of an almost extinct species, and we should approach it in totality and create a mood and a feeling, and a beginning, middle and an end. And I suppose we've made a work that is a bit challenging."

"The commercial challenges have to be confronted," bassist Adam Clayton said. "But I think, in a sense, the more interesting challenge is, 'What is rock 'n' roll in this changing world?' Because, to some extent, the concept of the music fan -- the concept of the person who buys music and listens to music for the pleasure of music itself -- is an outdated idea."

That said, this isn't the first time that U2 is failing their own high expectations. ...


The Guardian writes a few days later on the same occasion (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/oct/26/u2-bono-disappointed-album-sales):
...
Despite having sold 1m copies of their latest album, U2 are disappointed with sales of No Line On the Horizon, Bono has admitted. As the band's lowest-selling CD in more than a decade, their frontmanbelieves the album does not cater to the public's "diet of pop".
Although it debuted in March at the top of the charts, No Line On the Horizon has seen less than a third of the sales of 2004's How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, and one quarter of the 4.3m copies that 2000's All That You Can't Leave Behind has sold. The biggest problem is perhaps the band's lack of a new hit – lead single Get On Your Boots peaked at No 12 in the UK and No 37 in the US.
"[We didn't] pull off the pop songs," Bono admitted. ...

Of course, you are allowed to dream on, @digitize, dream on ...:doh:
But, you see, the band does not share your quality view. They define quality in a different way!

Though I do love some parts of the album, this makes it clear: NLOTH has the same status at the moment as POP for the band – a commercial failure, dead. And this is the only reason, friends, why they are really working on 'new material' for the tour. There will be no MOS single. Sorry, but just read their statements, if you do not believe ...
 
I hope you do realize it's easier to read your quotes as backing up Digitize's claim than your own
 
I hope you do realize it's easier to read your quotes as backing up Digitize's claim than your own

:yes:

Especially since the original article those quotes were lifted from (without providing the full context) also include gems like this one:
U2 and Bono Adapt to Changing Times - ABC News (this is the original article, as far as I know)
On tour, U2 can best gauge fan reaction to the new material. Last month at the cavernous Gillette Stadium near Boston, it was almost as frenzied and passionate as the reaction U2 gets for its classics. A roar came from the crowd as the band opened the show with "Magnificent," and the energy kept building as U2 performed four more new songs, including "Get on Your Boots."
"Judging by the reaction to the album, live, I feel like it has really connected," The Edge says. "There's a lot of records that make great first impressions. There might be one song that gets to be big on the radio, but they're not albums that people ... play a lot.

"This is one that I gather from talking to people. ... Four months later, they're saying, 'I'm really getting into the album now.'"

So NLOTH hasn't the same status as Pop for the band, not by a long shot. The band still feels not satisfied with the artistic quality of Pop, while they do feel so with NLOTH (for as far as U2 is ever satisfied with the albums they put out).
 
I agree 100%!!!

Achtung and JT are the two best, whichever one of them I'm listening to now is the best.

But NLOTH is the 3rd best.....

me three...NLOTH is probably my third favorite and easily my favorite this decade. The first four songs off of NLOTH stand up to any of their previous albums. Ditto for the last four tracks...

I don't care about the sales figures or lack of radio "hits". I mean, big album sales and big hits would be nice, and didn't NLOTH do pretty good considering the market we are in??

But we all know by now that the average radio station plays complete and utter garbage and most people who buy singles today are mentally challenged. Just look at which artists had big *hits* last year; Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Lady GooGoo Gaa Gaa, Nicklebackoncrack, etc. Did i miss anyone? Brittney Spears or Miley Cyrus, Jesus Christ! All complete and utter garbage, and the twilight tweens who like this stuff are fucking idiots. Even worse, adults who think they are cool for listening to this diarrhea are fucking retards. The industry is controlled by fat old men who like child pornography, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. Remember N*SYNC? LOL!

At the moment I don't really want my music sharing the same airwaves with the festering ass sore that is considered today's popular music.
 
me three...NLOTH is probably my third favorite and easily my favorite this decade. The first four songs off of NLOTH stand up to any of their previous albums. Ditto for the last four tracks...

I don't care about the sales figures or lack of radio "hits". I mean, big album sales and big hits would be nice, and didn't NLOTH do pretty good considering the market we are in??

But we all know by now that the average radio station plays complete and utter garbage and most people who buy singles today are mentally challenged. Just look at which artists had big *hits* last year; Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Lady GooGoo Gaa Gaa, Nicklebackoncrack, etc. Did i miss anyone? Brittney Spears or Miley Cyrus, Jesus Christ! All complete and utter garbage, and the twilight tweens who like this stuff are fucking idiots. Even worse, adults who think they are cool for listening to this diarrhea are fucking retards. The industry is controlled by fat old men who like child pornography, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. Remember N*SYNC? LOL!

At the moment I don't really want my music sharing the same airwaves with the festering ass sore that is considered today's popular music.
Love this post. :love: (especially the last part)
 
Even worse, adults who think they are cool for listening to this diarrhea are fucking retards.

Hi, I'm an adult who really enjoys a lot of pop music. I don't think it makes me cool, though. I honestly like it. Does that still make me a fucking retard?

:)
 
Hi, I'm an adult who really enjoys a lot of pop music. I don't think it makes me cool, though. I honestly like it. Does that still make me a fucking retard?

:)

no, i give you a pass because you obviously have taste in other areas.

I know you got the drift of my little rant, but for the sake of clarity here my rage would be directed to the dolts who listen to top 40 BS so they can be dictated to what they will like. Those morons who will turn up the latest American Idol contestant's single and love it to death because they are sheep to the commercial machine. These people are not smart enough to discern a pile of shit from a fudge brownie. To those people, they deserve the shit.

We, the consumer, control the music industry, not the other way around. Yet an overwhelming majority of the population just goes with the flow because they dont have the balls, energy, or whatever it's called to say ENOUGH! If people would quit buying/downloading/listening to bad music then maybe the big record companies would be able to sign new bands who actually have something worth listening to. Until that happens we will still be forced to listen to ten million fireflies and bad romance or Taylor Swift singing about high school crushes.

that said, i do have a guilty pleasure i probably should not admit but i will. I quite enjoy Carrie Underwood's song "Cowboy Casanova" because deep down every time i hear it i think of Tony Romo escaping the blitz and throwing a long bomb TD pass. That and Carrie Underwood is from my state, and she is smokin hot.
 
I know you got the drift of my little rant, but for the sake of clarity here my rage would be directed to the dolts who listen to top 40 BS so they can be dictated to what they will like.

Thanks for the clarification - I honestly didn't get what you had meant by that part of your rant, and now that you've said that, the whole thing makes much more sense. :)

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go crank up some Lady GaGa and sing along at the top of my lungs. :tongue:
 
me three...NLOTH is probably my third favorite and easily my favorite this decade. The first four songs off of NLOTH stand up to any of their previous albums. Ditto for the last four tracks...

I don't care about the sales figures or lack of radio "hits". I mean, big album sales and big hits would be nice, and didn't NLOTH do pretty good considering the market we are in??

But we all know by now that the average radio station plays complete and utter garbage and most people who buy singles today are mentally challenged. Just look at which artists had big *hits* last year; Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Lady GooGoo Gaa Gaa, Nicklebackoncrack, etc. Did i miss anyone? Brittney Spears or Miley Cyrus, Jesus Christ! All complete and utter garbage, and the twilight tweens who like this stuff are fucking idiots. Even worse, adults who think they are cool for listening to this diarrhea are fucking retards. The industry is controlled by fat old men who like child pornography, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. Remember N*SYNC? LOL!

At the moment I don't really want my music sharing the same airwaves with the festering ass sore that is considered today's popular music.

You know what though? What kind of miracle did it take for us to get a SLEEPER masterpiece out of U2 in 2009!!!! :O Who would have expected that!
 
You know what though? What kind of miracle did it take for us to get a SLEEPER masterpiece out of U2 in 2009!!!! :O Who would have expected that!

:up:

I really don't think Bono's crying in his beer. Everyone wants a hit on the radio, but a hit with fans is sweet I'm sure.

:heart:NLOTH
 
me three...NLOTH is probably my third favorite and easily my favorite this decade. The first four songs off of NLOTH stand up to any of their previous albums. Ditto for the last four tracks...

I don't care about the sales figures or lack of radio "hits". I mean, big album sales and big hits would be nice, and didn't NLOTH do pretty good considering the market we are in??

But we all know by now that the average radio station plays complete and utter garbage and most people who buy singles today are mentally challenged. Just look at which artists had big *hits* last year; Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, Lady GooGoo Gaa Gaa, Nicklebackoncrack, etc. Did i miss anyone? Brittney Spears or Miley Cyrus, Jesus Christ! All complete and utter garbage, and the twilight tweens who like this stuff are fucking idiots. Even worse, adults who think they are cool for listening to this diarrhea are fucking retards. The industry is controlled by fat old men who like child pornography, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. Remember N*SYNC? LOL!

At the moment I don't really want my music sharing the same airwaves with the festering ass sore that is considered today's popular music.

LOL I agree with EVERY word! And to think that billboard named nickleback the band of the decade is disgusting!!!! The shit music is what sells big these days while the good music such as NLOTH doesn't do so well. Please can someone explain to me what the fuck is going on with the music industry???
 
I'll say it again: U2 fucked up in their single releases. It should have gone like this:

No Line on the Horizon 2 as a pre-album single to drum up interest and announce, "Hey! We're fucking back!" Would have been the best debut single from a new U2 album in a decade. (January '09)

Breathe as single B especially since they opened pretty much every show with it and it kicks ass and is exciting! Exciting! Nothing quite like an exciting song. (April '09)

Then Moment of Surrender. Kind of a breather (sic) release. Also, it's an inventive song. Gives the impression U2 is still capable of playing outside their box. (July '09)

Next I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight. Another wham-bam song with a memorable beat and anthem lyric. (September '09)

Finally, Magnificent. A sort of lullaby to the whole process. Hooky, but meaningful. Larry's best drumming on the album, perhaps Bono's best vocal. The Edge has a solo. Adam starts it all out with a powerful bass. (October '09)

In 2009, 5 of the most played new songs on the 360° tour also might have fired up the radio stations if only they U2 had some balls. Some of these singles could have even been just radio singles or quick iTunes releases. Anything to actually promote the album outside the concert arena.
 
:hmm: I've gone back and forth with that but concluded that I think they chose the correct version for the album. However for a pre-album single, I think you are spot on. :up:
 
I'll say it again: U2 fucked up in their single releases. It should have gone like this:

No Line on the Horizon 2 as a pre-album single to drum up interest and announce, "Hey! We're fucking back!" Would have been the best debut single from a new U2 album in a decade. (January '09)

Breathe as single B especially since they opened pretty much every show with it and it kicks ass and is exciting! Exciting! Nothing quite like an exciting song. (April '09)

Then Moment of Surrender. Kind of a breather (sic) release. Also, it's an inventive song. Gives the impression U2 is still capable of playing outside their box. (July '09)

Next I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight. Another wham-bam song with a memorable beat and anthem lyric. (September '09)

Finally, Magnificent. A sort of lullaby to the whole process. Hooky, but meaningful. Larry's best drumming on the album, perhaps Bono's best vocal. The Edge has a solo. Adam starts it all out with a powerful bass. (October '09)

In 2009, 5 of the most played new songs on the 360° tour also might have fired up the radio stations if only they U2 had some balls. Some of these singles could have even been just radio singles or quick iTunes releases. Anything to actually promote the album outside the concert arena.

This!

NLOTH2 says we are back, is catchy and short unlike MOS, but different enough for U2 to catch people's attention. Plus, what is better than having Bono scream the name of the upcoming album over and over again in the chorus? Leaves no doubt as to what U2 album you are buying when you like the song. It would have turned some heads for damn sure, just find a way to get "time is irrelevant, its not linear" into that lyric and its perfect!

Maybe before officially releasing MOS, they could have let that leak out online somehow as the 1st thing people hear from the album. This was a suggestion of Earnie Shavers, and I think it was brilliant.

U2 really screwed up the choice of and promotion for a first single, and I think it is that simple. It sucks, but in the 2000s, an album needs a strong first single to take off.

I am not armchair quarterbacking, I thought Boots was the best thing since sliced bread when it first came out, but it quickly became clear something went wrong and it was not going to catch. Hindsight is 20/20, but I guess I hoped that someone smarter than me(and more objective, lol) would know what to release and how to promote it.
 
This!


I am not armchair quarterbacking, I thought Boots was the best thing since sliced bread when it first came out, but it quickly became clear something went wrong and it was not going to catch.

In fact, this became so clear that now, I find myself agreeing with gsweeps that Boots should not have been a single at all.

So we go from "that was incredible, awesome, so glad Larry and Adam showed up this time, going to be a big hit, back to the 90s irony, etc" to "great live song, mediocre studio and should not have been a single, let alone the 1st one." This in the span of a year.

What baffles me is its pretty clear NLOTH2 was one of the first things U2 wanted us to hear from the album, yet it is so much different than Boots. NLOTH 2 is the clear compromise between the "growers"(UC, MOS) and the immediacy of Crazy Tonight or Magnificent. Boots is just a 3 part song that, when compared to the others mentioned, only seems to work as an album track.
 
Please can someone explain to me what the fuck is going on with the music industry???

It's all about marketing. If you can market bad taste many people will follow along for the ride. When I was a kid I used to listen to the top 40 from the beginning in the morning to lunchtime without a problem. Since then I could hear musical formulas pretty easily then Achtung Baby came out and it sounded so different and better and I haven't looked back. Some newer generations are listening to "training wheels" music and will have to go through that process themselves and hopefully explore classic rock and pop sometime in their lives.
 
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