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"I actually like the song. I like guitar and drumb work is good, and I like Bono's singing in it. Not a fan of Greenday, but that's ok."

Agreed, and the more I listen to it, the more I like it.
 
shart1780 said:
By the way, I think that album cover is completely atrocious. That guy from Greenday looks so incredibly ugly there.

If you want pretty boys go buy pop records , this is rock n roll.
 
Average song. Could have been so much better, but the production and vocal performances are just s***. Sound is awful, really awful (listen to the "drums" ...). Too much compression, LOUDNESS, no dynamics, no passion, just fast nonsense pretending to play "punk rock from venus".

One of the worst ways to waste what could have been a great song with a completely different treatment!.

Damn, U2 need this man in badly if they want to find a rock sound for God's sake!

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I think the song is great

Just hoped Edge's licks and the almost solo were longer
 
The Saints are coming...ewww

Hope ya'll liked the thread title.

What does Bono go on a rant about during the "Saints" performance with Green Day at Superdome?

Something about Magnolia trees, and knees, and please, and he's an American. (I thought he came from Ireland)

Is that gonna be part of the actual studio version, or was Bono just changing things up for New Orleans?

Anywho, I'm glad to see him up to his old rhymin' tricks again. Knees=please.
 
No it's not in the studio version, though it was probably my favorite part of the live performance. Very powerful. And kudos for the knees/please joke. That's incredibly clever and original.
 
Sadly, I wasn't making a joke. It was an observation. Bono should go into the next album with a list of words he's forbidden to use. Knees and please being at the top of that list. Then maybe he can come up with something incredibly clever and original. I'd give him kudos for trying at least.
 
Just like the "last one to post here wins" thread, this has been done before. :|
 
Kid A :drool:


ozeeko,

Why do you find this surprising? Ever since Bono showed off his jacket lined with the American flag, I knew that he'd whored himself out. With The Joshua Tree and Rattle & Hum, he seemed to have a genuine appreciation & fascination for America. Now he just comes off as a corporate whore. I've stopped caring about these things. Waste of time. :shrug:
 
MrBrau1 said:


No you wouldn't.

You'd whine and say it sucks.

That's what you do.

That's all you do.

You just wrote a hit song there. All it needs now is a chorus. How about this?

I'm on my knees
And I'm begging you please
I'm an American
But I like Swiss Cheese

Alright, ure turn..
 
Zootlesque said:
Kid A :drool:


ozeeko,

Why do you find this surprising? Ever since Bono showed off his jacket lined with the American flag, I knew that he'd whored himself out. With The Joshua Tree and Rattle & Hum, he seemed to have a genuine appreciation & fascination for America. Now he just comes off as a corporate whore. I've stopped caring about these things. Waste of time. :shrug:

What I find funny is that I can't even criticize my favorite band without being insulted or pigenholed in some way. The conclusion I've come to is... If you don't like The Bomb then u ain't a good person, and u don't care about what Bono's doing in Africa.

Zootlesque...when you heard Bono singing about "Magnolia trees, and being on your knees, and please, and blah blah he's an American (or a corporate whore is what he meant)"...don't u just cringe at shit like that? Don't you want Bono to branch out and write some new shit for a change? I sure as hell do. Buy a fucking Thesaurus, Bono.
 
That part in the live performance doesn't refer to himself does it?
I think the it's the mother's sign that says she's an American?

Living like birds in magnolia trees
A child on a rooftop
A mother on her knees
Her sign reads
"Please, I am an American"

:eyebrow: or did I misunderstand it all?
 
:banghead: He was referring to the signs people were showing after Katrina.

I think the US jacket thingie :rolleyes: was another way of showing his well-known appreciation for America.

edit: the "kneel" rhymes aka a theme. Just like he was using "moon" and "sun" on AB or sun, wind, earth etc on JT. Not that an improvised live lyric has anything to do with what the lyrics on the new album are.
 
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Zootlesque said:
Why do you find this surprising? Ever since Bono showed off his jacket lined with the American flag, I knew that he'd whored himself out. With The Joshua Tree and Rattle & Hum, he seemed to have a genuine appreciation & fascination for America. Now he just comes off as a corporate whore. I've stopped caring about these things. Waste of time. :shrug:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Bono worn jackets lined with the flags of other countries (not just the USA?). I suppose he's only "whoring" himself out if he wears the American flag. LOL.

Even if it is cheesy, I still believe it comes from the same place of sincerity as the JT/RH admiration. It's all about the context - when he wore the USA jacket during the Halftime show, people were moved. If he pulled the same stunt now, of course, I'd agree that it was extremely overbearing. On that same token, I guess Bono took a step backward during the Vertigo tour, with the whole blindfold/POW routine. LOL.

ANYWAY, back OT... eh, "The Saints Are Coming" is decent, I guess. *shrug* Not crazy about it. I love the cover art, though.
 
ozeeko said:
What I find funny is that I can't even criticize my favorite band without being insulted or pigenholed in some way. The conclusion I've come to is... If you don't like The Bomb then u ain't a good person, and u don't care about what Bono's doing in Africa.

Zootlesque...when you heard Bono singing about "Magnolia trees, and being on your knees, and please, and blah blah he's an American (or a corporate whore is what he meant)"...don't u just cringe at shit like that? Don't you want Bono to branch out and write some new shit for a change? I sure as hell do. Buy a fucking Thesaurus, Bono.

Yes. If you're not crazy about HTDAAB, think it is mediocre and are vocal about it, you'll be crucified in this forum. You'll be lumped into that weirdo category of trolls that just come here to flame the band no matter what. It won't matter if you're really passionate about War, JT, R&H, Achtung, Zooropa or Pop. If you don't like either ATYCLB or HTDAAB, you're a bad fan.

As for Bono's lyrics, yeah I've grown rather tired of the soul/kneel/knees thing as well. Sometimes I wish he would just leave America and american themes alone for once and go write about something different. But it's his band, he can do what he wants I suppose.


SpaceOddity said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Bono worn jackets lined with the flags of other countries (not just the USA?). I suppose he's only "whoring" himself out if he wears the American flag. LOL.

Even if it is cheesy, I still believe it comes from the same place of sincerity as the JT/RH admiration. It's all about the context - when he wore the USA jacket during the Halftime show, people were moved. If he pulled the same stunt now, of course, I'd agree that it was extremely overbearing. On that same token, I guess Bono took a step backward during the Vertigo tour, with the whole blindfold/POW routine. LOL.

You may be right. I may be wrong. I was just presenting my opinion of how he came across to me.
 
Zootlesque said:
Kid A :drool:


ozeeko,

Why do you find this surprising? Ever since Bono showed off his jacket lined with the American flag, I knew that he'd whored himself out. With The Joshua Tree and Rattle & Hum, he seemed to have a genuine appreciation & fascination for America. Now he just comes off as a corporate whore. I've stopped caring about these things. Waste of time. :shrug:

And exactly what corporation did he whore himself out to? America? Africa? Katrina?
 
ozeeko said:


What I find funny is that I can't even criticize my favorite band without being insulted or pigenholed in some way. The conclusion I've come to is... If you don't like The Bomb then u ain't a good person, and u don't care about what Bono's doing in Africa.

Zootlesque...when you heard Bono singing about "Magnolia trees, and being on your knees, and please, and blah blah he's an American (or a corporate whore is what he meant)"...don't u just cringe at shit like that? Don't you want Bono to branch out and write some new shit for a change? I sure as hell do. Buy a fucking Thesaurus, Bono.

There's a difference between not liking an album and then introducing yourself to the forum by creating every thread or entering every thread with the same exact Bomb sucks rhetoric. That's all you posted when you came here.

And obviously you didn't even get the lyrics right...:|
 
Bono: Whoring himself out to the corporate monster that is Buenos Aires:

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Give me a break. People need to get over themselves. :|
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:
And exactly what corporation did he whore himself out to? America? Africa? Katrina?

I'm not sure. I'm only talking about how he comes off these days in the public eye. I could be totally wrong on this. But...

- panicking at the comparitively low sales of Pop in America
- coming out with safe pop melodies soon afterwards to get sales figures up at the expense of the music
- changing 'Pop' songs on the already messed up Best Of just to make them more radio friendly
- apologizing for Pop & how they were at the end of the 90s

All of that = whoring out IMO. :shrug: But like I said, maybe I'm wrong and there's a perfectly good explanation for all of that.

And Utoo, the jacket with the American flag just seems to go with all the points I mentioned above and that's why I said it. On the other hand, he hasn't really buckled to the Argentinian public's music tastes now, has he?
 
Zootlesque said:


I'm not sure. I'm only talking about how he comes off these days in the public eye. I could be totally wrong on this. But...

- panicking at the comparitively low sales of Pop in America
- coming out with safe pop melodies soon afterwards to get sales figures up at the expense of the music
- changing 'Pop' songs on the already messed up Best Of just to make them more radio friendly
- apologizing for Pop & how they were at the end of the 90s

All of that = whoring out IMO. :shrug: But like I said, maybe I'm wrong and there's a perfectly good explanation for all of that.

And Utoo, the jacket with the American flag just seems to go with all the points I mentioned above and that's why I said it. On the other hand, he hasn't really buckled to the Argentinian public's music tastes now, has he?


Frankly dude, that's crap. For those who want to bemoan the world since Pop, every single argument will be bent and tied in to Pop, its reception, and its treatment thereafter, etc.. The fact of the matter is that one flag jacket is given mountains of symbolism because it fits with your Pop argument, while one flag jacket means nothing at all because it doesn't fit the argument. One is an "obvious" symbol for selling out, the band's turn towards commercialism and away from integrity, etc. etc. etc., and the other--while the same exact thing--means nothing at all because it doesn't quite fit.

As I said, people just need to move on.






What was this thread about? The Saints song?
 
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