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#76 | |
The Fly
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Again, Magnificent is better than anything Coldplay has done save for Clocks. I'll fight anyone in a bar on that point. However, I honestly think they're running out of melodies and ideas, it happens to every band sooner or later.
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The Fly
Join Date: Aug 2004
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[QUOTE=purpleoscar;5959168]If you want to fight back why not show people who steal from U2?
__________________The big difference is that none of these songs took an EXACT key set of notes, chords, riffs, or melodies from U2.
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Refugee
Join Date: Jan 2005
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you guys should listen to the ramones. they used some simillar riffs on certain songs. and ac/dc did it bit too. lol.
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The Fly
Join Date: Aug 2004
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AC/DC has written the same song over and over for 30 years. That's why to most people they are a "bar band" or band you listen to when you lift weights. Good power riffs but there is no depth or beautiful creativity. LOL
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ONE
love, blood, life Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Canberra, Australia
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You don't like similarities between other artists, cool, I get that. But launching an all out assault on a band you claim to love by branding them unimaginative and lazy is in itself a lazy observation. You need to look past the superficial exterior of a simple similarity and notice that there is bucketloads more going on. The percussion in GOYB is something noone has ever heard before. The riff, and silken melding between edge and adam is peerless in u2's catalogue, WAS's meaning is enhanced enourmously by the fact that it uses that melody when you look at the story contained within it. Superficially it may seem lazy, but it is our job as fans of U2 to give them the opportunity to explain these things to us, to look further into why it has happened, or how it really is different. I think it is also a very bitter pill to swallow to see so many people claiming to be avid fans complaining about them at this stage in their career/lives. Their longevity and relevance is peerless. They have untold riches from their music. They are nearly 50. They owe you, me or anybody nothing. Anything we hear from them now is a bonus to me, and I for one am immeasureably grateful for that. I don't feel that it is my right to hear their music anymore. It is most definately a priveledge, and an honour. The impetuous nature of fans in the fast-food generation astounds me.
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Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In right wing paranoia
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There were also bands competing for a similar sound during the early U2 period:
YouTube - simple minds waterfront YouTube - The Alarm - Rain in the Summertime YouTube - The Clash - Straight To Hell YouTube - Television - Marquee Moon The Unknown Caller solo reminds me of The Television's Torn Curtain
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Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In right wing paranoia
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No they just copied the approach and delay that sounds like Edge. Also it's not the exact notes because Journey goes in other directions than the U2 song.
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The Fly
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: High on a Desert Plain
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Local Time: 05:13 AM
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And then there's Interpol, Our Love to Admire:
Track 1 YouTube - interpol - pioneer to the falls Track 6 YouTube - Pace is the trick - Interpol and the Editors, An End Has a Start: Track 2 YouTube - E D I T O R S - An end has a start (music video) Track 4 YouTube - Editors - Bones (official) And the even more absurd and offensive Track 9 YouTube - Editors - Spiders I've decided to stop listening to all music because face it, I've hear the notes A-G enough already. ![]() ![]()
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The Fly
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I just don't think it's my "job" to have them explain anything to me, or to accept what they throw out. If I don't like it, I don't like it. I don't act like I have some privilege or right for U2 music. I did, however, rightfully pay them money to purchase their CD, and as a consumer, if I think it was not worth my money, I'm allowed to think that. My payments to them are one of the reasons they have the untold riches you so fondly speak of. I do agree with you, anything we hear from them is a bonus now, no doubt. However, I just think there comes a time where you either put something original out or you HANG IT UP and quit trying to hype yourself up to make as much money as you can. Some of the comments coming out of the U2 camp leading up to this album are downright absurd after listening to the album. That's what I have a problem with when you couple it with songs that have melodies they either unconsciously or consciously lifted. Evening.
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Blue Crack Supplier
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
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Well the Emmanuel melody was purposely used, and acknowledged. This is something many writers have done.
As far as all the others, some I can see where you think they are the same and others I think you might be high. But I have to wonder what else you listen to, because if you use these very loose defintions to define "ripping off" I can show you a thousand other instances that are even more legit... I have to wonder if you listen to a lot of other music... For if we counted every time someone may have used the same two chords in a row and maybe even a similar guitar tone as ripping off then everyone would be sued. That's all your Journey theory is, two chords making a similar climb with a similar drumbeat behind it(I went and listened for it and I can see where an untrained ear can think what you are thinking) but the thing is there not even the same chords it's just the climb that sound similar. It's great if you want to be really picky about music, that's cool, but being picking about things that you really don't know about seems odd... Just my $.02
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The Fly
Join Date: Aug 2004
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There are what, seven basic notes in music? How many different ways can they be used? It's inevitable that you'll find similarities, so what's the problem?
I think Walkon274, you are splitting hairs to split hairs. Or you're a troll, which ever comes first. And if true originality is your standard, then you should go ahead and give up listening to music, because you won't find it. It's never existed and never will. Throw out Dylan (a famous music thief), The Beatles, The Stones, and just about every other band that's ever written a song. Get over it and move on.
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Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rotterdam
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Ir reminds me of a dead fly on the wall.
Realy like the voals on this song bu the guitar is pretty underwhelming, it still rocks. funny song actually lol
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Refugee
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Bangladesh.
Posts: 1,399
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If U2 are sampling from U2, why bother? After all.....
U2 is the best. There is nothing wrong sampling from the best.
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New Yorker
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: somewhere up in the ether
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I find your argument annoyingly pretentious and forced You're all over the place. First your talking about how they are repeating themselves, then you state why you don't like the songs, then you state over and over again that its your right to state an opinion about the band because every asshole has an opinion (or something like that) Whats the real deal here? Is it really about "blatantly ripping themselves off"???? or is it really the simple fact that you just don't like the new songs, and you are using a weak argument like "the band is ripping themselves off" to try to convince everyone to feel the same way you do but you realize that its not working because all of the solid evidence we provided totally refutes your claim so you're back peddling by saying its just "your opinion". did I hit it on the head? yeeeah. that's what I thought. Again, opinions are great, but when you write posts as if they are facts then it becomes less about opinions. That's the problem here. I'm all for opinions, but not when they are trying to be passed as fact.
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