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Old 12-01-2017, 07:00 PM   #1
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Alternate Tracklist SOE

First, just let me say that I LOVE the record! It's an amazing one. VERY happy with it! I started listening to it as soon as it was on Spotify and been listening to it non-stop. With that said I'm sure a lot of us already have, or certainly will soon have, an opinion on the tracklist. I know it's early but it's fun stuff nonetheless.

So, here's my favorite alternate tracklist right now:

01. Lights of Home (st. Peter's String Version)
02. Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way
03. The Blackout
04. You're The Best Thing About Me
05. The Showman (Little More Better)
06. The Little Things That Give You Away
07. Get Out Of Your Own Way
08. American Soul
09. Red Flag Day
10. Summer Of Love
11. Landlady
12. Love Is All We Have Left


To me the St. Peter's version of LOH is better than the one on the album and works better as an opener. With that said LIAWHL is a perfect closer, it's a fine opener, no doubt, but works better for me as a closer. And having the first and last songs with this string/ethereal vibe feels really cool.

I really love LIBTAIIW and to me it's a perfect follow up to the slow build of LOH and as the first big up tempo song.

To me The Blackout feels a little lost on the original tracklist, it feels great as the third one, keeping the upbeat vibe and starting a more rock vibe. YTBTAM feels great right after it. On the original tracklist it ends up sounding a bit rushed following LOH.

Landlady and TLTTGYA are interchangeable. Little Things as the penultimate song is an obvious and really good place for it (because of the lyrics and vibe), but Landlady also fits beautifully in that spot, in a Cedars of Lebanon style, its ascending ending feels perfect in that spot. And I like Little Things as the first ballad.

I didn't put There Is A Light in there because I don't really get it, I think Song For Someone is much better, this song as of now feels a little unnecessary to me. Everybody seems to like it so maybe I'll change my opinion about it, but right now I feel like 12 songs is better.

Looking forward to seeing everybody's tracklist!
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:23 PM   #2
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I've only listened to the album once through, but a lot of your logic makes sense to me and I want to try it this way.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:45 AM   #3
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I played through a few different track list alternatives today at work, and I'm pretty sure this is the one:

1. Love Is All We Have Left
2. Lights of Home
3. Book of Your Heart
4. The Blackout
5. Get Out of Your Own Way
6. Summer of Love
7. Red Flag Day
8. The Showman (Little More Better)
9. You're the Best Thing About Me (Sci-fi Soul Mix)
10. Landlady
11. Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way
12. The Little Things That Give You Away
13. 13 (There Is a Light)
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:50 AM   #4
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Tracklist is actually really good. The only thing that’s jarring is the transition between AS and SOL, so I changed the sequence of tracks 2-5 and it works really well.

Don’t change anything else but make 2-5:

Get Out Of Your Own Way
American Soul
You’re The Best Thing About Me
Lights Of Home
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:08 AM   #5
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1. Love Is All We Have Left
2. Lights of Home
3. Get Out of Your Own Way
4. American Soul
5. You're The Best Thing About Me
6. The Showman (Little More Better)
7. Summer of Love
8. Red Flag Day
9. The Blackout
10. The Little Things That Give You Away
11. Landlady
12. Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way
13. 13 (There Is a Light)

Just minor stuff, really, but good I think. Transition between Lights of Home and The Best Thing isn't great, so switched with GOOYOW that has a slower beginning. I like having The Best Thing and then The Showman because they are light and personal, and then you go into Summer of Love, Red Flag Day and The Blackout that are more about the state of the world. The Blackout signals somewhat of a transition to the darker, mostly slower and personal stuff at the end which is then completed by The Little Things. Beginning and ending is perfect in the original release.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:41 PM   #6
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1. Love Is All We Have Left
2. Lights of Home
3. Get Out of Your Own Way
4. American Soul
5. You're The Best Thing About Me
6. The Showman (Little More Better)
7. Summer of Love
8. Red Flag Day
9. The Blackout
10. The Little Things That Give You Away
11. Landlady
12. Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way
13. 13 (There Is a Light)

Just minor stuff, really, but good I think. Transition between Lights of Home and The Best Thing isn't great, so switched with GOOYOW that has a slower beginning. I like having The Best Thing and then The Showman because they are light and personal, and then you go into Summer of Love, Red Flag Day and The Blackout that are more about the state of the world. The Blackout signals somewhat of a transition to the darker, mostly slower and personal stuff at the end which is then completed by The Little Things. Beginning and ending is perfect in the original release.
That's pretty good. I've replaced Lights of Home with the strings version
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:59 PM   #7
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Any tracklist that doesn't include 'Book of Your Heart' is simply not the correct tracklist ;-)

It's taken a few days of experimentation, but I believe this is the best one:

1) Love is All We Have Left
2) Lights of Home (String)
3) You're The Best Thing
4) The Blackout
5) Get Out of Your Own Way
6) American Soul
7) The Book of Your Heart
8) Summer of Love
9) Red Flag Day
10) The Showman
11) The Little Things That Give You Away
12) Landlady
13) Love is Bigger Than Anything in its Way
14) There is a Light

Surprisingly, Book of Your Heart goes beautifully after American Soul. Its sonic space is like a breath of fresh air. I urge everyone to try it!
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:35 AM   #8
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Here's an alternate tracklist idea that's kind of fun. I noticed some of the songs remind people of specific albums/eras, so I tried to place the songs in an order corresponding chronologically to the albums/eras.

01. Red Flag Day
02. Landlady
03. Book of Your Heart
04. The Blackout
05. Love is All We Have Left
06. Lights of Home
07. Get Out of Your Own Way
08. American Soul
09. The Showman
10. Summer of Love
11. The Little Things That Give You Away
12. There is a Light

Here's my rationale for the order:

 
01. Red Flag Day (War)
02. Landlady (I've seen comparisons to Promenade on TUF)
03. Book of Your Heart (been compared to Joshua Tree b-sides like Walk to the Water)
04. The Blackout (dirty sound like Achtung Baby, opening recalls Zoo Station)
05. Love is All We Have Left (ambient like Passengers)
06. Lights of Home (Pop... piano and lyric references to lights remind me of Gone, lyric addressing Jesus reminds me of Wake Up Dead Man)
07. Get Out of Your Own Way (sounds like a Beautiful Day clone to me, so ATYCLB)
08. American Soul (garage rock sound, HTDAAB)
09. The Showman (reminds me of a bouncy, tossed off track like Fast Cars... also sounds like something they might have recorded with Rick Rubin)
10. Summer of Love (lyrics refer to war/conflict, similar to NLOTH tracks like Cedars, Boots, Winter)
11. The Little Things That Give You Away (electronic drum beat and the dark feeling remind me of Moment of Surrender)
12. There is a Light (Song for Someone on SOI)

Note: The Best Thing and Love is Bigger don't feature, because I found post-2000 U2 sounds were over-represented... Get Out and American Soul are better examples of ATYCLB and HTDABB sounds, IMO.

I can definitely see arguments for certain songs being placed in different eras. For example, Little Things could fit in the '80s, and Lights of Home could fit in the '00s.
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:05 AM   #9
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I always felt the running order for SOE was a little strange: The Blackout seems to be far too late in the album and The Little Things That Give You Away seems to early with Landlady awkwardly sandwiched in between.

So I dig this order a bit better since I feel it has a better flow, and it almost tells a story throughout. I also swapped out The Showman since it's my least fave:

1) Love is All We Have Left
2) Love is Bigger than Anything in its Way
3) Red Flag Day
4) You're the Best Thing About Me
5) Summer of Love
6) Get Out of Your Own Way
7) American Soul
8) The Blackout
9) Landlady
10) The Book of Your Heart
11) Lights of Home
12) The Little Things that Give You Away
13) 13
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:02 AM   #10
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I think SOE makes a pretty good 10-track album, if you do a little swapping and trimming. There are a handful of songs that are in a style of U2 song that just doesn't hold my interest much; so they get axed in my version. It goes like this:

1. Love is All We Have Left
2. Lights of Home (Strings Version)
3. Best Thing (Kygo)
4. American Soul
5. Summer of Love
6. Book of Your Heart
7. The Little Things
8. Landlady
9. Blackout
10. 13 (There is a Light)
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Cut Best Thing, Get Out and American Soul.

Replace Lights of Home with the string version.

Put Book Your Heart as track three.

Maaaaybe ditch Love is All, mainly because the opening line is very embarassing. Light of Home (St Peter) would be a massive opener...
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Songs Of Experience:

1) Lights Of Home
2) The Blackout
3) Love Is All We Have Left
4) Get Out Of Your Own Way
5) Red Flag Day
6) Summer Of Love
7) Landlady
8) Book Of Your Heart
9) You're The Best Thing About Me
10) The Showman
11) Love Is Bigger Than Anything In Its Way
12) The Little Things That Give You Away

Starting off the album with the two rawk songs works pretty well I think. LIAWHL doesn't sound out of place not being first, and actually flows pretty well into GOOYOW.
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Here's an alternate tracklist idea that's kind of fun. I noticed some of the songs remind people of specific albums/eras, so I tried to place the songs in an order corresponding chronologically to the albums/eras.

01. Red Flag Day
02. Landlady
03. Book of Your Heart
04. The Blackout
05. Love is All We Have Left
06. Lights of Home
07. Get Out of Your Own Way
08. American Soul
09. The Showman
10. Summer of Love
11. The Little Things That Give You Away
12. There is a Light

Here's my rationale for the order:

 
01. Red Flag Day (War)
02. Landlady (I've seen comparisons to Promenade on TUF)
03. Book of Your Heart (been compared to Joshua Tree b-sides like Walk to the Water)
04. The Blackout (dirty sound like Achtung Baby, opening recalls Zoo Station)
05. Love is All We Have Left (ambient like Passengers)
06. Lights of Home (Pop... piano and lyric references to lights remind me of Gone, lyric addressing Jesus reminds me of Wake Up Dead Man)
07. Get Out of Your Own Way (sounds like a Beautiful Day clone to me, so ATYCLB)
08. American Soul (garage rock sound, HTDAAB)
09. The Showman (reminds me of a bouncy, tossed off track like Fast Cars... also sounds like something they might have recorded with Rick Rubin)
10. Summer of Love (lyrics refer to war/conflict, similar to NLOTH tracks like Cedars, Boots, Winter)
11. The Little Things That Give You Away (electronic drum beat and the dark feeling remind me of Moment of Surrender)
12. There is a Light (Song for Someone on SOI)

Note: The Best Thing and Love is Bigger don't feature, because I found post-2000 U2 sounds were over-represented... Get Out and American Soul are better examples of ATYCLB and HTDABB sounds, IMO.

I can definitely see arguments for certain songs being placed in different eras. For example, Little Things could fit in the '80s, and Lights of Home could fit in the '00s.


Your linking of the sound to past albums is something I have personally heard too and I would agree with almost every comparison.
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Replace American Soul with 4 minutes of dead air.
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Maaaaybe ditch Love is All, mainly because the opening line is very embarassing. Light of Home (St Peter) would be a massive opener...


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