Los Angeles 11/18/87 DVD for trade

[Blue Room]

LOL, one last comment. Isnt it amazing how all the new registered people with one post are coming out of the woodwork here? HMMM

And the crack dealer thing was just an analogy, you obviously understood my point by your comment. So I think it was valid.

I also agree completely though about the trust thing. It is sad. Someone not keeping their word is just pathetic on any level. I'am just glad I wasnt involved in this whole fiasco other than this thread. Some people are going to have some dirty hands and damaged reps as a result, right or wrong.

 

[Chrisedge]

I know there MUST be better versions out there, because the seller didn't pull it out of the original deck that recorded it, but I stand by my statement, that I have never seen a better gen of ANY non-released video than this (IP excluded)

The buyers wanted the video bad enough to pay for it. They are just as stupid/hungry/bad as the seller is. No one held a gun to someones head to buy it.

Trust me, it's completely traceable to the above person. Even the seller knew he was gonna do it, and the seller never made any deal to "Never trade it". But a deal was made to make sure IF it was traded, the buyer would send whatever rare stuff he got back to the seller. The buyer never sent the seller anything, and traded it for crap anyways. While I still think it's terrible to sell stuff, the buyer made a deal and didn't stick with it. The seller stuck to his deal. Even a rare iem was thrown in the deal, and the seller didn't spread that after the buyer spread the video. I still think the guy that "broke his word" was the buyer.

Actually, I don't have your email addy anymore. If you wanna chat ... chrisedge@yahoo.com

 

[Rory]

blue room, it?s impressive that you?ve made 1145 posts, but just because someone else hasn?t posted before or frequently isn?t reason to ridicule them.

ultiamtely, this hobby comes down to trust. as long as people can?t be trusted, things will continue to deteriorate, and some people will be less and less willing to trust others. and trust goes beyond keeping one?s word in a *rare* dvd trade deal?it also includes the respect issues that have been beaten to death in other forums, such as the whole *respect the taper*/server issues.

 

[Blue Room]

LOL, I'am not ridiculing you. I just think "some" of these posts are possibly from a friend of the source. Thats all I was talking about. It is kind of fishy. I agree post count doesnt mean jack (it just means I have wasted more time than you! LOL), its just the timing and dates registered that are interesting on this thread. Thats all. I also agree as I said before on the trust and respect thing. But it goes both ways. Not just the purchaser in this case.

OK, that is DEFINATELY it for me. I think most have said their peace on this.

 

[buckman]

Yes, Blue Room is a bootleg professional!!! He has posted over 1,100 times and monitors forums all day!! And, no matter what you say, you are pretty much wrong because he is always right and he knows everything. !!

Bottom line, a majority of video material exists because it was filmed with the intention of selling. If it wasn't for people selling, you wouldn't be watching more than a couple crappy VHS tapes. Get over it. If you have a problem with the morality or legality of selling, you have to realize that it is in technically illegal to be trading also. When you trade a couple CD's you are distributing fixed sounds of an unauthorized live performance which is illegal if you look up US code. The RIAA could track you down and get the postal inspector involved if they really wanted to, but basically they don't care-- just as they don't care about bootleg DVD's being sold on ebay. So, you're not all high and mighty and immune, Blue Room.

So next time you watch Syracuse 87, Irving Plaza, COH '86, 10/25/01, 10/27/01, and almost any other show out there, be thankful that it even exists. And why do they exist: because of intentions of profit and selling. I actually wish there were more dealers around because a lot of shows always go unfilmed (Elevation Columbus, Indy, Cleveland, Detroit, Hartford, etc.). I bet you wish you could watch a quality shot of Detroit 01!!!

So like I said, get over it.

 

[cell]

oh god. this thread makes me break out in hives.

 

[Rory]

while i don't think that every single filmer is out to make a profit, buckman is right about being thankful that a lot of stuff exists at all, and that, for better or worse, selling provides an incentive for some people to record shows in the first place. twenty years ago some shows were bootlegged in audio because bootleg sellers commissioned their own tapers--many people are able to listen to those shows *thanks* to the bootleggers.

it's also ironic that a lot of the people acting horrified at the los angeles '87 transactions worship and/or constantly provide *merchandise* to a certain website that sells CDs for $7.50 and DVDs for $20.

 

[Blue Room]

LOL, Buckman, funny stuff!!

 

[ultraviolet_j]

I know both people involved (no comments on how well), and I think the best thing to do is to close this thread. It's useless information for most people.

Lynne, I couldn't agree with you more. I know everyone involved in this situation and absolutely NO good can come of it. And as far as leaking, it's like the the pot calling the kettle black on this one.

 

[bloodysunday972]

Gotta agree there ultraviolet.

Some things im sure quite a few videos im sure have never seen the light of day the point depot 89 tv broadcast for example which there is a few seconds of it on the 1990 to 2000 dvd but..........

I think that the selling bootlegs is rediculous but I do appreciate the rarity of some things I myself have a few rarities.

But as for keeping something from leaking that's like waving a 100 dollar bill in front of someone and saying dont spend it eventually they will.

Id like to get a copy of this myself but I dont have any dvds

 

[Rory]

what does it mean for something to *leak* nowadays? the reality is that fewer and fewer people seem to actually trade nowadays. someone could make a promise not to trade something, but then *give* it to a bunch of *close friends*, who then each *give* it to a bunch of *close freinds*, etc. technically, the person hasn?t traded it, but overnight its spread like wildfire. (and, because all the *close friends* have it they don?t need to then trade with the source). as has happened in the audio realm, more and more video stuff won?t get traded/given out if the poor behaviour continues.

 

[vidtrades]

Has anyone been able to contact Michael in the last couple of weeks? I'm not getting a response and I'm supposed to get 2 non-U2 items after sending 5 rare shows. Someone fill me in what the deal is, thanks.
My email is:
vidtrades [at] hotmail [dot] com

Email: u2_rules_my_world@yahoo.com

Master>SVHS>Dig8>DVDr

PC Authored, Complete show, high bit rate, 1 disc, menu's and artwork, does not include Dalton Brothers

I am the Original source of this, it was suppose to be kept rare but it got in the hands of the wrong person and is now beginning to circulate. I am looking for things i do not have in trade.

I WILL NOT trade for VHS or Audio, I will not B&P. Please dont waste my time or yours asking.

Other available things(incomplete list) :
(all things listed are from Best possible sources)
U2 New York, Irving Plaza 12/5/00, 1 disc
11/4/81 Berlin Germany, Proshot TV, great Quality
08/20/83 Loreley, German TV, Proshot
00/00/83 US Festival, AMAZING Quality
7/4/87 Paris Fr, unreleased Proshot, multiple angles, 2 disc set
10/9/87 Syracuse NY, unreleased Proshot, multiple angles, 1 disc
00/00/87 Rattle and Hum Outtakes, various footage shot for Rattle and Hum movie but not used, about 8 hours of footage, 4 disc set
(see below for more info)
Adelaide 11/16/93, unreleased Proshot, multiple angles, 1 disc
Sydney 11/27/93, Laserdisc>DVD transfer, amazing Quality,
Notre Dame 10/10/01, Single Cam Proshot, Great Quality
9/1/01 Slane Castle, Partial footage aired on CBS, 1 hour

Audience shots:
(all master>DVD)
10/30/01 Providence
12/2/01 Miami 2 cam
4/24/01 Anaheim
6/17/01 MSG NY, Incomplete but Great Footage, Gone-Walk-on
8/6/01 Antwerp
7/18/01 Paris Fr

PLEASE do not send me trade list that do not include geneology or information about quality. I send Quality stuff and i expect Quality in return.

I have approximately 100 other U2 shows on DVD(or clones of masters), the stuff above is just a partial list.

Rattle and Hum: This 4 disc set is sourced from the original set of 4 VHS tapes that was leaked to a guy named Tracy, he circulated the footage on VHS back in the day, it has been fragmented and recirculated but i located the guy and arranged for it to be transferred to DVD. It is all footage that was originally leaked to him plus 45 minutes that he never shared until these DVD's.
Geneology: Master>VHS>DVDr(standalone)

If you are looking for the best quality for Rattle and Hum, this is the set you want, others have transferred 2nd gen VHS to DVD and such and some may have this set since i have shipped copies.

 

[Vervefloyd]

I thought trading was supposed to be fun?

 

[Eliv8]

Re: Re: Los Angeles 11/18/87 DVD for trade

Has anyone been able to contact Michael in the last couple of weeks? I'm not getting a response and I'm supposed to get 2 non-U2 items after sending 5 rare shows. Someone fill me in what the deal is, thanks.
My email is:
vidtrades [at] hotmail [dot] com

I sent him 2 (rare?) DVDs 4 weeks ago and as yet he hasnt sent me his 1/2 of the trade or replied to my e mails. I'd also like to know if anyone has heard from him.

 

[stabilofan]

i dont mean to drag this out for more fighting... but does anyone have coverart for this show?

if you could help me out it would be much appreciated.

carlisaakAThotmailDOTcom

thanks,
carl

 

[Marty McFly]

I have it if anyone needs it.

 

[dronomophone]

Yo. I would love to get a copy. E-mail me.
-Dan
Dronomophone@hotmail.com

 

[Chrisedge]

Did you mean the cover or the dvd?



Cover here
http://members.lycos.nl/tradingstation/hpbimg/losangeles_11_18_1987_dvd.jpeg

 

[mayflower]

If anyone wants to trade with me,this is my U2 video trading list:CD-R(#1):
U2-VH1 Legends 42:53 min
U2-MTV On The Road Special 27:42 min
U2-MTV Lovetown Documentary 26:11 min

CD-R(#2):
MTV-A Year In Pop 45:18 min

CD-R(#3):
MTV Special-Outside It's America

CD-R(#4):
Christmas(Baby Please Come Home)
Bad 1985(Live Aid)
Night and Day
Gloria
U2 Mafia-The Godfather
The Corrs and Bono-Summer Wine
Band Aid-Do They Know It's Christmas
Bono and Frank Sinatra-I've Got You Under My Skin
Bono and Edge-Wild Irish Rose(documentary)
Apple Commercial-Think Different
Bono-B?id?n Fheidhlim?(Gangs of NY)

CD-R(#5):
A Celebration
Two Hearts Beat As One
Don't Take Your Guns To Town(Live)
Love Is Blindness
Clannad and Bono-In A Lifetime
U2-So This Is Christmas(Live Lennon Cover 1987)
Oscars 2003-The Hands that Built America
The Corrs and Bono-When the Stars Go Blue
Sightings of Bono
Bruce Springsteen and Bono-Because The Night(Live from Miami 2002)
Bono-Why Are You Creative(short interview 1998)
The Hands that Built America(Live from the Today Show)

CD(#6):
U2 - Bono and Larry on Comic Relief(full) 03-14-03
U2 - Youngline-Street Mission (March 1978)
U2 - Live On Top Of The Pops 01-20-83 (New Years Day)
U2 - Live On Top Of The Pops 03-31-83 (Two Hearts Beat As One)
U2 - Live On Top of the Pops 09-27-2000 Beautiful Day(From the Clarence Rooftop)
U2 - Live On Top of the Pops 10-06-2000 Beautiful Day(From the TOTP studios)
U2 - Live on Top of the Pops 11-03-2001 Stuck In A Moment
U2 - Live on Top of the Pops July 2001 Elevation
U2 - 1992-02-27 - Top Of The Pops - One
U2-Please Live at the MTV VMA 1997
Bono&Pavarotti-Misere,Ave Maria(Live From Modena Italy June 2003)
Bono-One (Live From Modena Italy June 2003)
U2 - VH1 25 Sexiest Rock Stars [Bono]

CD-r(#7):
U2 @ the Grammys 2002
U2 @ the Brit Awards 2001
U2 @ the Tonight Show Nov.2001
U2 @ the Special Olympics(One,Pride) 6-21-03

CD-R(#8):
U2 on The Simpsons-Trash of the Titans(Ep.200)

CD-R(#9):
MTV Diary:Bono's Trip To Africa

U2 SHOWS ON VCD:

U2-VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs)
U2-BOYTOUR LIVE FROM DEN HAAG "TROJAN HORSE"(02-12-81)

U2-VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs)
U2-ELEVATION LIVE FROM CALGARY(04-10-01)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-IRVING PLAZA (12-05-2000)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-LAST NIGHT AT THE RITZ NY(11/22/1981)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-LOVETOWN TOUR LIVE FROM ROTTERDAM(01/10/1990)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-LIVE FROM THE HIPPO. DE VINCENNES PARIS (07/04/1987)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-LIVE FROM NOTRE DAME(SOUTHBEND) (10/10/2001 )

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-US FESTIVAL (LIVE FROM DEVORE) (5-30-83)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-LA POPMART 06-21-97

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
HAWKMOON 269 - ELEVATION IN COLOGNE(July 12,2001)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-BOYGROUP(November 4, 1981. Berlin, Germany. Metropol)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-ELEVATION IN TURIN(ITALY)21-07-01

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-JOSHUA TREE TOUR SYRACUSE 10-09-87

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-GENT/BELGIUM(05-09-92)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-DORTMUND 11-21-84

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-LORELI ROCKPALAST FESTIVAL(08-20-83)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-ZOO TV AND NOW A WORD FOR OUR SPONSOR-WASHINGTON(08-16-92)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-JOSHUA TREE TOUR(WORLD IN ACTION) (06-27-87)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-ELEVATION LIVE FROM HSBC ARENA BUFFALO NY(05-31-2001)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-ELEVATION LIVE FROM ANAHEIM CA(4-26-01)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-St. GOARSHAUSEN Frelicht Buhne LORELI ROCKPALAST FESTIVAL(8-20-83)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(2 VCDs):
U2-ELEVATION LIVE FROM TURINO(07/21/2001)

U2-UNDER A BLOOD RED SKY LIVE FROM RED ROCKS(06-05-83)(1 VCD)

U2-ZOO TV LIVE FROM SYDNEY (2 VCDs)(11-27-93)

U2-POPMART LIVE fROM MEXICO(2 VCDs)(12-03-97)

U2-ELEVATION LIVE FROM BOSTON(6-6-01)(2 VCDs)

U2 VIDEO BOOTLEG(1 VCD):
U2-MISCELLANEOUS SHOWS:
BELFAST
The Ocean
11 O'Clock Tick Tock
I Will Follow
Source: 23 Jan 1981 Queens University, Belfast
Quality: Very good to excellent television broadcast.
Length: 10 Minutes


OLD GREY wHISTLE TEST
The Ocean
11 O'Clock Tick Tock
I Will Follow
Source: 28 Feb 1981 UK TV 'Old Grey Whistle Test' - London, England
Quality: Very good to excellent television broadcast.
Length: 7 Min


ROSKILDE FESTIVAL 1982
Rejoice
The Cry / Electric Co.
11 O'clock Tick Tock
Gloria
Missing : I Fall Down, I Will Follow, Twilight, Out Of Control
Source: 2 July 1982 Roskilde Festival, Denmark
Quality: Very good to excellent television broadcast.
Length: 20 Min


LYCEUM BALLROOM
Electric Co.
Source: 7 September 1980 live from Lyceum Ballroom, London
Quality: Very good to excellent television broadcast.
Length: 3 Min

LIVE AID
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Bad
Source: 13 July 1985 Live Aid, Wembley Stadium, London
Quality: Very good to excellent television broadcast.
Length: 20 minutes



U2 OFFICIALS:
UNDER A BLOOD RED SKY
THE UNFORGETTABLE FIRE COLLECTION
THE (MAKING OF) JOSHUA TREE
ZOO TV-LIVE FROM SYDNEY
ACHTUNG BABY
POPMART-LIVE FROM MEXICO
THE BEST OF 1980-1990
THE BEST OF 1990-2000

VCD:Bono on Oprah 9-20-02

My e-mail is:

mayflower285@yahoo.com

 

[mayflower]

I'm particularly looking for these shows on video(VCD/VHS/DVD):

U2-Elevation Live from Calgary 04-09-01
U2-Elevation Live from Copenhagen 06-07-01
U2-Elevation Live from Copenhagen 07-07-01
U2-Zoo TV-Live from Dublin 08-27-93
U2-Zoo TV-Live from Dublin 08-28-93
U2-Live from Worcester The Centrum MA 04-16-85
U2-Zoo TV Live from Oakland CA 04-18-92
U2-Zoo TV Live from Oakland CA 07-11-92
Egos and Icons(U2)
VH1-Before They Were Rockstars