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Old 10-09-2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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Where did "One" actually originate from? "Mysterious Ways" or "Ultraviolet"?

In U2 by U2, it says that the song came from chord progressions that Edge was playing for the bridge of "Ultraviolet", but I've read in just as many places that the song was actually "Mysterious Ways". Does anyone have any comment on this?


EDIT: Not sure how I posted this in the wrong forum. My bad.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:21 PM   #2
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My guess is that One came from the same medley that Ultraviolet, The Fly, LWTSH, apparently Zoo Station, and the title for Wake Up Dead Man all came out of (on the Salome bootleg). The bridge from that song became the opening verse of Ultraviolet (it's interesting hearing those lyrics launch into the riff from The Fly and LWTSH!), and I can imagine Edge playing around with One's riff in that bridge.

I've never heard the Mysterious Ways connection.
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Gotta be Ultraviolet, makes sense melodically. In fact, I think One--->Ultraviolet would be a pretty fantastic live transition. I know Axver would agree.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:41 AM   #4
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Yes - Ultraviolet. I think the story is in the U2 At the End of the World book.
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Edge played two parts from two different songs and tried to put them together for One.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:13 AM   #6
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Gotta be Ultraviolet, makes sense melodically. In fact, I think One--->Ultraviolet would be a pretty fantastic live transition. I know Axver would agree.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:42 AM   #7
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Bono should dedicate a mini-set to you: One->Stuck->Ultraviolet / Elvis Ate America (snippet).
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To really confound Axver, they should play a long medley of the most obscure, 17th century Irish ballads, mixed in with some new, untitled songs, topped off with some covers of Polish and Thai bands' B-sides, and then turn to the blond-Afro dude in the 18th row in NZ and say, "Chronicle that track on yer website, lad!"
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I was mistaken about U2 by U2 - the book says nothing about "Ultraviolet" being the inspiration for "One."

But on several occasions in U2: Into the Heart, there is either a mention or direct reference to "Mysterious Ways" having a connection to "One."

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I have heard they were working on a chord progression for Mysterious Ways when they came up with the riff for One.
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If you listen to the bridge of Mysterious Ways ("one day you'll look...") that chord progression is very similar to the verses of One.
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If you listen to the bridge of Mysterious Ways ("one day you'll look...") that chord progression is very similar to the verses of One.
I cant say, as a musician (loosely speaking) i have ever noticed this
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I don't remember One ever being attached to any of these songs.
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I cant say, as a musician (loosely speaking) i have ever noticed this
I'm a musician as well and I never noticed it either until I read this thread and listened again.
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I always thought One came from the "Shine Like Stars" verse of Without or Without You.
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I always thought One came from the "Shine Like Stars" verse of Without or Without You.
Really? What exactly about them is alike would you say? Those pieces differ like day and night to me.
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From memory, the "one day you will look..." chord progression is B-flat, D#, G#, C#.
Again, from memory, these are all major chords.

It's corresponding chords, in a chord progression would be (A or B major), (D or E), (G or A), (C or D)

So the comparison would be either A, D, G, C or B, E, A, D

If you've played One more than a few times, you know the supposed similarity here.
the verses for One are
Am - Dsus or Dm?- F- G.

So
1- They are in different tuning
2- You have major chords only in MW and more than major chords used in One (minor or sustain, might even be a 6th or 7th in there - going from memory etc.)
3- Beyond these two, if you knock MW down a step and make them in the same key, and ignore the fact that One isn't using standard major chords,
The 3rd and 4th chords in the progression are totally different.
F-G (in One) vs (even after augmenting MW to make the comparison) G-C

So, yeah. Not "very similar" IMO.
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This is obviously jumping forward, but I always thought the verse/outro bass line from 'Stay' was extremely similar to the chorus/outro bass line from 'One'. It might be in a different key, and I think there's one note that's different, but otherwise the progression is identical, and the second half of each bar sounds exactly the same to my ears.
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I've read that Edge was working on the middle eight of Mysterious Ways, and one of the alternatives turned out to be the basic melody of One. What I understand is that the song didn't belong to MW, but it was supposed to be inserted as "the middle" of the song.
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I always thought One came from the "Shine Like Stars" verse of Without or Without You.
It makes sense. The chords and melody flow in a very similar way on both songs. Anyway, I'd love to have a studio version of Shine Like Stars. I do love this snippet.
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