What's the best way to compare the chart performance of every U2 single? - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Your Blue Room > Everything You Know Is Wrong
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-04-2018, 07:00 PM   #1
War Child
 
Jarvio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 687
Local Time: 02:22 PM
What's the best way to compare the chart performance of every U2 single?

I always liked to compare what numbers each U2 single got to in the UK charts, but tragically, the uk charts have completely changed. From War onwards, U2 easily made the top 20 in the uk with every single. And then came NLOTH, and since then, their uk chart positions have gotten worse and worse. And GOOYOW doesn't seem to have charted at all?

So I ask the chart buffs, is there any fair way to compare the sales performance of every U2 single, roughly in the fairest way?

The charts keep changing over time, so I'm having a hard time to find out which is the best way to compare them.

For example, TUF, TJT, and RAH all safely made the top 10 in terms of singles. Then The AB singles mostly didn't make the top 10. Whereas the ATYCLB and HTDAAB singles did amazingly well, all making the top 5. And then, from NLOTH, they struggled to even make the top 30, or in Magnificent's case, top 40! And now, for SOE, TBT got to number 92.

So yes - what is the best way to compare all these? Preferably in a simple, non-complicated way, so I can get a possible list going.
__________________

Jarvio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 03:24 AM   #2
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Stateless
Posts: 62,865
Local Time: 09:22 AM
By height
__________________

Headache in a Suitcase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 03:26 AM   #3
The Male
 
LemonMelon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hollywoo
Posts: 66,841
Local Time: 06:22 AM
Penis length
LemonMelon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:34 AM   #4
Vocal parasite
 
Axver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: 1853
Posts: 152,733
Local Time: 12:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvio View Post
I always liked to compare what numbers each U2 single got to in the UK charts, but tragically, the uk charts have completely changed. From War onwards, U2 easily made the top 20 in the uk with every single. And then came NLOTH, and since then, their uk chart positions have gotten worse and worse. And GOOYOW doesn't seem to have charted at all?
...and there's your comparison.

What more do you want? U2 were reliably a top 20 band until 2009, and now they're not.
__________________
"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database!
Gig pictures | Blog
Axver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:43 AM   #5
War Child
 
Jarvio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 687
Local Time: 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axver View Post
...and there's your comparison.

What more do you want? U2 were reliably a top 20 band until 2009, and now they're not.
Yes but the format of the charts have dramatically changed have they not?
Jarvio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 07:48 AM   #6
Vocal parasite
 
Axver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: 1853
Posts: 152,733
Local Time: 12:22 AM
They change insofar as they try to measure how people are listening. They've always changed. The original charts counted jukebox plays! As media have come and gone - 8-track, CDs, cassettes, streaming - so have the charts been tweaked. If you could somehow calculate a 2018 chart with the same methodology used when Boy was released, you'd have a worthless chart.
__________________
"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database!
Gig pictures | Blog
Axver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 08:39 AM   #7
War Child
 
Jarvio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 687
Local Time: 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axver View Post
They change insofar as they try to measure how people are listening. They've always changed. The original charts counted jukebox plays! As media have come and gone - 8-track, CDs, cassettes, streaming - so have the charts been tweaked. If you could somehow calculate a 2018 chart with the same methodology used when Boy was released, you'd have a worthless chart.
Yeah that's what I meant, it's hard to compare all the singles when the charts change throughout time in general. If anyone can work out a chart like you said, that would be great. Personally I have no clue how to even begin with that, hence starting this thread, to see if there is any way.
Jarvio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 11:07 AM   #8
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,571
Local Time: 01:22 PM
Best thing charted at 92
rennowba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 06:10 PM   #9
Vocal parasite
 
Axver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: 1853
Posts: 152,733
Local Time: 12:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvio View Post
Yeah that's what I meant, it's hard to compare all the singles when the charts change throughout time in general. If anyone can work out a chart like you said, that would be great. Personally I have no clue how to even begin with that, hence starting this thread, to see if there is any way.
But my point is that the only meaningful chart is the one periodically adjusted to account for how people buy and listen to music, so that in 2018 it gives you a way to compare how consumers of that year compare with how people consumed music in 1998 or 1988. If you want a chart from 1980-2018 based on entirely the same metric - which you will never get - it would tell you absolutely nothing. For example, if you excluded digital sales and streaming, the chart stats for the past decade or so wouldn't accurately tell you the success of any song at all. If you decided to weight sales of vinyl singles most heavily across that whole period, you'll have a big old hole in the nineties/early 2000s because the medium almost died. If you weight CD singles most heavily, nothing will chart prior to the mid-eighties because the technology did not exist (not in terms of commercial chart singles anyway).

In other words, stick with the charts at the time. Sometimes they don't adapt quickly enough to how listening habits change - so physical sales in the 2000s are weighted too much because it took ages for downloads and streams to even be included. But in general that's going to favour a legacy act like U2.
__________________
"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard

Ian McCulloch the U2 fan:
"Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat."
"And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth."

U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database!
Gig pictures | Blog
Axver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2018, 01:10 AM   #10
Blue Crack Supplier
 
lazarus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 39,817
Local Time: 06:22 AM
Well it didn't favor them when it came to Vertigo. Its digital sales weren't included and the song didn't fare as well on the chart.
lazarus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2018, 05:41 PM   #11
The Fly
 
Bonoisgodly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 134
Local Time: 08:22 AM
They are all #1 hits in my book.
Bonoisgodly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2018, 05:51 PM   #12
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Popmartijn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 32,731
Local Time: 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvio View Post
Yeah that's what I meant, it's hard to compare all the singles when the charts change throughout time in general. If anyone can work out a chart like you said, that would be great. Personally I have no clue how to even begin with that, hence starting this thread, to see if there is any way.
You can't create a chart with a single methodology. As Axver says, the charts have always changed their methodology over time. It is why the charts (try to) accurately show what is popular at a certain moment. The way to compare chart performance over the years is by chart positions. And that says that U2 used to be a highly popular band on the charts, with many top 10/top 20 singles, but not anymore. And that is the reality.
__________________

Popmartijn is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×