U2 to headline Dreamforce in San Francisco, October 2016!!

[trainmaniac]

Excellent version of BTBS.

 

[hasin73]

Can't wait for watching BTBS in HD print .....

 

[Axver]

Just read back on this thread - Axver, I love you. I don't care if that makes bob uncomfortable.


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Let's make him uncomfortable.

 

[CMIS]

In the SOE thread, after the iHeart performance people were telling some of us to either stop the political talk or take it to another thread. I complied because political talk can lead to a complete breakdown of civility, but they were wrong in asking us that because it was very much part of what we were discussing... a U2 performance which after a long time had a major, relevant political angle to it.

Personally thrilled that they are weighing in on this. Trump is a fuckin horror spoof, and deserves to be called out for it. Sure, the refugee crisis was another relevant issue they touched upon during the i+e tour, but this one is especially pleasing because at this stage of their careers, they have stuck their necks out when no one expected them to. That yearning for social justice remains, and trump is an affront to those who have similar values.

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[Nick66]

So y'all think there will be a trump rant at 3am now? [emoji57]

 

[lemonfly]

I applaud Bono for wading in and being so outspoken and critical of Trump. The stakes are incredibly high - no more all-you-can-eat buffets at the White House for him if Trump gets in.

 

[Dragonfave]

Proshot:

 

[Nick66]

Hmmmm. That wasn't as effective as I thought it would be.

Of course Trump is a disgrace and deserves all the scorn that can be heaped upon him, but he's sort of low hanging fruit for Bono. I think it would have been more effective if Bono had used the opportunity (and irony) of playing before a group of pretty privileged people and turned Trumps comments about how rich he is back on his audience, and challenged their notions of wealth and power, and asked them what they were going to do with it that made them different than Trump. It would be trashing their party a bit, of course, but it would be speaking truth to power. Ask them what more they can do. After you ask a video of Trump about his vision of America, suddenly switch the video screen to a pan of the audience and ask them what their vision of America is. Otherwise it's just another celebrity mocking Trump.

As it is, Bono having a dialogue with clips of Trump fell surprisingly flat, IMO. I wish he would have made a larger point than simply Trump's an ass...everyone is his audience already knew that.

 

[Vlad n U 2]

Hmmmm. That wasn't as effective as I thought it would be.

Of course Trump is a disgrace and deserves all the scorn that can be heaped upon him, but he's sort of low hanging fruit for Bono. I think it would have been more effective if Bono had used the opportunity (and irony) of playing before a group of pretty privileged people and turned Trumps comments about how rich he is back on his audience, and challenged their notions of wealth and power, and asked them what they were going to do with it that made them different than Trump. It would be trashing their party a bit, of course, but it would be speaking truth to power. Ask them what more than can do...look and them and ask them what their vision of America is instead of asking a video of Trump.

As it is, Bono having a dialogue with clips of Trump fell surprisingly flat, IMO. I wish he would have made a larger point than simply Trump's an ass...everyone is his audience already knew that.

Couldn't agree more. Top post.

I was a bit underwhelmed by it myself, but I generally think that barbs merely aimed at Trump the individual go off pretty flat and don't really address structural problems in the US.

 

[gvox]

What a fucking cesspool


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[Salome]

Ask them what more they can do. After you ask a video of Trump about his vision of America, suddenly switch the video screen to a pan of the audience and ask them what their vision of America is.

I was a bit underwhelmed by it myself, but I generally think that barbs merely aimed at Trump the individual go off pretty flat and don't really address structural problems in the US.

I don't think Bono not turning into a pedantic clown is a letdown.
According to this same logic his SBS "Fuck the revolution" speech were only hollow words, not engaging his audience into a shared solution.

Luckily Bono puts forward his ideas in regards to structural problems through different outlets than a rock show. He tends to be pretty eloquent when he does it then too.

 

[Nick66]

I don't think Bono not turning into a pedantic clown is a letdown.
According to this same logic his SBS "Fuck the revolution" speech were only hollow words, not engaging his audience into a shared solution.

Luckily Bono puts forward his ideas in regards to structural problems through different outlets than a rock show. He tends to be pretty eloquent when he does it then too.

Really????

Bono challenges their fans to take action in shows all the time. I'm frankly a little stunned you'd even write this.

And the "fuck the revolution" analogy is a bad one. If I'm not mistaken, he was talking to an American audience about what was going on in Ireland.

 

[Hewson]

Its too bad U2 postponed the fall tour because of Trump, otherwise that could have been a nightly thing instead of a one off.

 

[Nick66]

Its too bad U2 postponed the fall tour because of Trump

They did?

 

[Hewson]

They did?

In some folks' eyes...

http://www.u2interference.com/forums/f189/tour-delay-theory-trump-and-the-elections-220169.html

 

[Nick66]

Lol

 

[bobsaget77]

Bob likes Sufjan so he's not as bad. But I just can't understand why you could support Trump. Surely you're smarter than that? Any other Republican I could see even if I wouldn't agree with it myself.


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I didn't support him until literally everyone else was eliminated AND whenever Gary Johnson won the Libertarian nomination. I jokingly supported probably 30 candidates on here, but I really only supported 2: Rand Paul(REP) and Austin Peterson(LIB). Neither got the nomination and I'm stuck with Trump.

Well he may be surprised to learn Sufjan is gay.

Firstly, I'm a huge REM fan, so i don't really care. But also, there's no confirmation of that. As you know, he's a very secretive guy.

Just read back on this thread - Axver, I love you. I don't care if that makes bob uncomfortable.

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Let's make him uncomfortable.

To quote the great Robert California, "I am never uncomfortable."

 

[chrissybaby]

I think they'd probably develop the idea if they were on tour.
It's getting there, but as people on here have quite rightly identified, it would be better if he threw the references to his own wealth in there too. In a similar way to the tour last year.
Just mocking Trump doesn't work, the Bush Sr stuff on ZooTV was more sophisticated.

Still great that they were working on a new way to present Bullet though. Would've been easy not to work on a new segment etc.

 

[Irvine511]

A near billionaire asking the wealthy audience to check their privilege in order to address structural problems would be pretty obnoxious. Given that at least 1/2 of U2 own (wildly expensive) property and spend large amounts of time in the US and are, in a sense, immigrants who believe in the potential of the US, coming at Trump from and Irish/international perspective is going to have more credibility. It's also more visceral, and likely to have a bigger impact on stage and on social media than an economic discussion. That certainly has it's place, but Bono may not be the best messenger.

 

[Hawkmoon269]

Hmmmm. That wasn't as effective as I thought it would be.

Of course Trump is a disgrace and deserves all the scorn that can be heaped upon him, but he's sort of low hanging fruit for Bono. I think it would have been more effective if Bono had used the opportunity (and irony) of playing before a group of pretty privileged people and turned Trumps comments about how rich he is back on his audience, and challenged their notions of wealth and power, and asked them what they were going to do with it that made them different than Trump. It would be trashing their party a bit, of course, but it would be speaking truth to power. Ask them what more they can do. After you ask a video of Trump about his vision of America, suddenly switch the video screen to a pan of the audience and ask them what their vision of America is. Otherwise it's just another celebrity mocking Trump.

As it is, Bono having a dialogue with clips of Trump fell surprisingly flat, IMO. I wish he would have made a larger point than simply Trump's an ass...everyone is his audience already knew that.

I don't think ALL the people in the audience was rich people... You do realize that the show was part of a Salesforce Conference so most of the people there are most probably software engineers, software architects, project managers, sales people, etc... maybe they had their tickets purchased through their employer and are most probably middle class

As for speaking to the rich people -or donors- in the audience I guess Bono can talk in person to them

 

[bobsaget77]

If U2 was relevant, headlines would read "Tax dodging billionaire Bono attacks Trump for being wealthy."
Didn't hear much of the performance, but please tell me he didn't go after Trump on taxes, right? That would be hysterical.

 

[Nick66]

That certainly has it's place, but Bono may not be the best messenger.

Good point. I noticed for example that Bono didn't run any clips of Trump's pride in tax avoidance.

I don't think ALL the people in the audience was rich people... You do realize that the show was part of a Salesforce Conference so most of the people there are most probably software engineers, software architects, project managers, sales people, etc... maybe they had their tickets purchased through their employer and are most probably middle class

I don't believe I said they were all rich.

 

[Hawkmoon269]

You said that the video screen should pan the audience...

 

[Nick66]

You said that the video screen should pan the audience...

Indeed.

Must everyone be as rich as Trump?

 

[lemonfly]

U2/Bono could've done something more pertinent and cutting than what was essentially just straightforward lampooning. Another champagne socialist celeb bashing Trump for being an ignoramus? Join the back of the queue, Bono. Zzzzzz

 

[Nick66]

Well I don't want to be harsh. I haven't seen the whole concert, I'm sure Bono took the opportunity to remind the privileged audience of their social responsibilities as he does his general audience. My only point is, for purposes of the BTBS clip that I saw, Trump's an easy target, every celebrity is having a go at him, I just thought it was a bit of a missed opportunity.

I'm mainly just annoyed that U2 is doing corporate gigs like this at all. The reviews I read said lot of the audience was disinterested (which I'd guess you'd expect at something like that). That said, I work in international development, and I'll concede that Bono has done far more good in that arena than I'll ever do, so mainly I'm just being grumpy that they're going down this road right now.

 

[gvox]

I don't think Bono not turning into a pedantic clown is a letdown.

According to this same logic his SBS "Fuck the revolution" speech were only hollow words, not engaging his audience into a shared solution.



Luckily Bono puts forward his ideas in regards to structural problems through different outlets than a rock show. He tends to be pretty eloquent when he does it then too.

This.

Why would Bono ask an audience of mainly middle class (not rich) what more they could do...at an event where they are actually participating already in doing something for others? "Hey privileged folk, this gesture is great and all, but it's not enough" - during Bullet, of all songs? What a colossally fucking stupid idea.

Having said that, he did still thank, encourage and exhort the audience for continued support of other great causes during other songs. But hey, let's just focus on 45 seconds of Bullet

to Bono and U2 for telling Trump - and by extension his supporters - to get fucked.

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[blasciego]

i heard a little part of the i still haven't found what i'm looking for's perfomance of yesterday, i love to heard bono's voice very fresh, god was very generous with him, hope he used all his gifts for the best he can did

 

[Y2K]

Until there are no more people left who would actually vote for Trump, I don't see bashing Trump as low hanging fruit. If the message isn't getting through... keep delivering it.

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

I think we should all stop picking on Hitler so much, its just too easy.