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Old 03-08-2009, 11:37 AM   #21
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I don't really have anything against Oasis -- I've heard almost all their songs, and I've seen them in concert in London. They make a great sound. But since Noel insists on shooting people down and bigging himself up continously (like, don't all those millions of pounds satisfy his ego?), he himself then has to be judged -- he invites it.

And there is a fundamental irony in what he says: He loves The Beatles, The Stones, The Sex Pistols, The Jam, The Smiths, and The Stone Roses. And yes, those are all great bands. But all of those bands were pioneers, who did something new and different, which is exactly why they made such a difference. Oasis, by contrast, is more right-wing and conservative than the Tories. Noel himself says that they have no interest in doing anything new or sounding different from... the way they've sounded on every record they've ever made.

The reason that The Sex Pistols, who made only one album, are so overrated and fondly remembered, and that Oasis are so detested by a majority and over-loved by a minority (and get booed at the NME Awards) is as follows: Steve Jones and Paul Cook didn't sit back and think, "Hmm, how can we sound just like the Stones and The Beatles?" The Stone Roses didn't think, "You know, we loved the Sex Pistols, so let's impersonate them!" But Oasis DID sit down and say, "Let's impersonate The Beatles and the Stones and T.Rex, and then we'll do it for 30 years while dissing other artists!"

Fact: Important artists open new parameters by doing things that nobody did before. The level of importance Oasis will go down in history with is no more or less than the importance of The Bay City Rollers and Wham! -- it's entirely based on sales and temporary popularity. That's fine, but Noel needs to realize this and stop deluding himself into thinking that he's on par with the greats before him.
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I think Noel makes a strong allusion at the end there to KNIFE CRIME, what with the 17-year olds and all. That's all they do anymore: stab people. Noel is scared.
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Noel is not on par with the greats before him - he is above all of them

Having listened to every oasis tune, i dont think its fair to say they are all the same/beatles rip offs

Also - if it aint broke, why fix it - Oasis wipe the floor with every band going right now - including u2

And philyfan - you were correct
Noel Gallagher speaks about knife crime | News | NME.COM

The reason why they were booed by the twats from franz ferdinand is because they know that compared to oasis they are nothing. People hate oasis as they thought they were finished, but still they can sell a million tickets in the uk in no time. As the interview says - oasis had a blip from SOTSOG to HC, but they came back with 2 belters. And anyway, fans vote for the NME awards and Oasis.

Franz, Kaisers, Bloc Party - all that shite will not be remembered as they are meaningless indie shit
Just like Blur
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Blur was ten times the band Oasis will ever be. Blur actually, you know, changed it up. Oasis sticks by the same, boring formula.
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Yea Think Tank was an awful album - they should not have bothered

Every blur song sounds like its a joke - like damon albarn is putting on that shitty voice of his, like some sort of comedy act - especially on For Tomorrow

Fair enough albarn chinese opera was good - but the good the bad and the queen were also shit
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Franz, Kaisers, Bloc Party - all that shite will not be remembered as they are meaningless indie shit
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Franz.... indie?

Bloc Party.....indie?

Blur.............indie?

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Well more so at Coldplay rather than U2 but as always he is funny and correct!

Noel Gallagher on how Oasis got their groove back - Times Online

That whole thing of bringing in Brian Eno,” he says, without naming names, but clearly thinking of U2 and Coldplay, “or hitching a ride to a good cause — it was people stopping being able to just feel, and starting to think. Which is brilliant if your music is directed at the small percentage of people that listens to music and likes to have a good think about it. Ultimately, though, what’s great about great music is that you don’t have to think about it. It just hits you, wham, and that’s it. You don’t have to go, ‘Yeah, well, you know Brian Eno, he made them all do their horoscopes before going in the studio.’ (Coldplay, again) Who gives a f***? What’s coming out of the speakers? That’s all I’m interested in.”

He’s on a roll now. “If it doesn’t hit you in the face, doesn’t speak of love, hate, friendship, sorrow, life and death, it doesn’t mean anything to me. The afterthought of any music should be, ‘Oh, wow.’ That’s the payoff. It’s like the Sex Pistols, the songs are so instant, but then you listen to the lyrics of Anarchy in the UK and you go, ‘F***ing hell, that guy was frightening.’ Even now, you listen to the Pistols and think, ‘He was 17 when he wrote that.’ Seventeen! What are 17-year-olds writing about now? Going to a chip shop and a bird’s just split up with him. So what? Get over it.”

Make sure you read the whole interview as its always great to see what Sir Noel thinks
I think such notions kill great music. If he actually thought about it, he'd realize our receptivity to certain art forms is dependent on our cultural environment. "With or Without You" wouldn't have been nearly as well-received in the 1950s as it was in 1987.

If you eliminate patience, you don't have growth in musical styles, including stuff like The Smiths, which Noel loves so much.
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I think Noel makes a strong allusion at the end there to KNIFE CRIME, what with the 17-year olds and all. That's all they do anymore: stab people. Noel is scared.
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This right here made me laugh for a good 5 minutes.

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Though he doesn't specify in the interview, it seems the "bringing in Eno" line was probably more directed at Coldplay than U2.

Coldplay truly "brought Eno in" (someone they hadn't worked with before) in an effort to achieve something great after hitting the wall with X&Y (an only partially successful effort, I think. Frankly, I thought much of X&Y was better than a lot of Viva la Vida).

U2, on the other hand, has a longstanding relationship with Eno (and Lanois) going back 25 years now (and don't forget almost 30 years working with Lillywhite). It's not as if they just "brought Eno in" on a lark hoping this great genius/musical mastermind he would help them think up something great.

I think that's why Coldplay's effort was only partially successful. They saw Eno as a sort of Wizard of Oz, who would hide behind a curtain directing the show and make them great while letting them get the credit, and thought that he was all they needed to achieve their Joshua Tree or Achtung Baby. But in the end, if the songs aren't there, there's only so much even Eno can do with them. Eno said recently in an interview that he's learned more from U2 than any other band or artist he's ever worked with, thus highlighting the reciprocal and balanced nature of their creative relationship. I doubt he could say he learned anything from Coldplay (and I don't mean that as a knock on them - I like some Coldplay stuff, but they are nowhere near U2 or Radiohead, to mention only current bands at peak form that they don't live up to. I'd rank Coldplay well below the best of The Cure, REM, and Smashing Pumpkins too).
Yeah, another Cure fan! Great to hear, my brother!

However, U2 did want Eno brought in for UF -- perhaps not nearly with the same calculation that Coldplay did -- but they did look to him to expand their horizons, and there was nothing wrong with that. I fear Bono has become more like Noel this decade. Very tragic.
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Every blur song sounds like its a joke - like damon albarn is putting on that shitty voice of his, like some sort of comedy act - especially on For Tomorrow
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Noel is not on par with the greats before him - he is above all of them

Having listened to every oasis tune, i dont think its fair to say they are all the same/beatles rip offs

Also - if it aint broke, why fix it - Oasis wipe the floor with every band going right now - including u2

And philyfan - you were correct
Noel Gallagher speaks about knife crime | News | NME.COM

The reason why they were booed by the twats from franz ferdinand is because they know that compared to oasis they are nothing. People hate oasis as they thought they were finished, but still they can sell a million tickets in the uk in no time. As the interview says - oasis had a blip from SOTSOG to HC, but they came back with 2 belters. And anyway, fans vote for the NME awards and Oasis.

Franz, Kaisers, Bloc Party - all that shite will not be remembered as they are meaningless indie shit
Just like Blur
Seriously? Oasis is terrible. Most over-rated band of the '90s.
Pulp were the '90s breakthrough -- far better than Blur, let alone Oasis.

I wish Jarvis Cocker would just reform Pulp; this solo act is pissing me off; he's also trying to be more immediate. Ah, these aging rockers never understand why they were so great.
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Franz.... indie?

Bloc Party.....indie?

Blur.............indie?

You're great, please keep posting.
Franz and Black Party are indie arent they ?
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Oasis is great... one of my favorite bands but...

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and U2

are all better bands... the last four by thousand miles. The last by a billion light-years.
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I think that's why Coldplay's effort was only partially successful. They saw Eno as a sort of Wizard of Oz, who would hide behind a curtain directing the show and make them great while letting them get the credit, and thought that he was all they needed to achieve their Joshua Tree or Achtung Baby. But in the end, if the songs aren't there, there's only so much even Eno can do with them. Eno said recently in an interview that he's learned more from U2 than any other band or artist he's ever worked with, thus highlighting the reciprocal and balanced nature of their creative relationship.
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In my opinion, U2 and Radiohead are light years ahead of anything out right now...including Oasis. but why does Noel have to criticize every other band, even if it is just a "joke." Behind every joke there may be a scared man hiding or at least some sort of truth?
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Noel is not on par with the greats before him - he is above all of them

Having listened to every oasis tune, i dont think its fair to say they are all the same/beatles rip offs

Also - if it aint broke, why fix it - Oasis wipe the floor with every band going right now - including u2
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Blur were great, and during and since then Damon Albarn has proven to be a gazillion times more talented than Noel Gallagher. And I’ve got no beef with Oasis, I mean they’ve offered nothing worth discussion for over a decade now so you can only really be neither here nor there with them.
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