donkeytimes
The Fly
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- Jan 14, 2009
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The bandwagon thought is interesting.
I think Achtung was smooth as silk - and it holds up so well over time.
Zooropa is just flat out interesting, has some angle to it - and some soul in a few places which smooth out the grit.
Pop has really solid structures, but the mixing/recording and approach are all wrong. Man, I think it would be interesting for them to re-record the whole thing 10 plus years later and see what arrangement they could come up with if there was ever spare time. Anyway...
Pop just lacked that certain zeal, and it didn't come naturally. I said it before, but Howie B. told the band, look...you should just be U2 at a certain point. Pop music, Chemical Bros., Oasis, Underworld, Prodigy were all the rage. So- U2 does the kitchen sink in terms of styles on this record. Its dis-jointed.
I do enjoy Pop, but its not smooth as butter. I want it to have more focus.
God Will Send his Angels had so much potential, the single version is much, much better I think. The ending is really abrupt on the record, as is Please...no ounce of drama like the live versions.
I hate to say it as its somewhat cliche, but U2 needed more of a soul influence, Lanois/Eno might have helped this. We will never know.
As for U2 going forward, let's hope SoA or whatever will have some of the risks Pop took, with great focus and warmer playing.
Velvet Dress is a great tune. It actually reminds me very much of a Danny Lanois Solo type song, something he would write. U2 need to find a small room and just play some warm notes, not overthink, that is when the hallmark idea's just come for them.
I think Achtung was smooth as silk - and it holds up so well over time.
Zooropa is just flat out interesting, has some angle to it - and some soul in a few places which smooth out the grit.
Pop has really solid structures, but the mixing/recording and approach are all wrong. Man, I think it would be interesting for them to re-record the whole thing 10 plus years later and see what arrangement they could come up with if there was ever spare time. Anyway...
Pop just lacked that certain zeal, and it didn't come naturally. I said it before, but Howie B. told the band, look...you should just be U2 at a certain point. Pop music, Chemical Bros., Oasis, Underworld, Prodigy were all the rage. So- U2 does the kitchen sink in terms of styles on this record. Its dis-jointed.
I do enjoy Pop, but its not smooth as butter. I want it to have more focus.
God Will Send his Angels had so much potential, the single version is much, much better I think. The ending is really abrupt on the record, as is Please...no ounce of drama like the live versions.
I hate to say it as its somewhat cliche, but U2 needed more of a soul influence, Lanois/Eno might have helped this. We will never know.
As for U2 going forward, let's hope SoA or whatever will have some of the risks Pop took, with great focus and warmer playing.
Velvet Dress is a great tune. It actually reminds me very much of a Danny Lanois Solo type song, something he would write. U2 need to find a small room and just play some warm notes, not overthink, that is when the hallmark idea's just come for them.
To each their own.
And I actually love the fact that it's a bit rough and unfinished. It makes it even more special.
but yeah it's a great album. Some of the songs are a bit weak where the mixing and so on's concerned which is obvious because when you hear Mofo [any performance] and Last Night On Earth [from Mexico City] they're just mindblowing!
