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Old 06-03-2010, 04:01 AM   #1
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Let's Discuss -- Early '80s U2!

Regarding everything from 1980 to 1983:

1) What is the best A-side single in this period?

2) What is the best B-side?

3) What is best album-track from this period?

3) What is the best overall album (from three studio LPs and one live) and why?






4) For those in the know, what is the best bootleg available from this period?

5) What are your overall thoughts and impressions of this early period of U2? How does it compare to other periods? How well/badly has this material aged?

6) Which member had the worst hair in this period?





(Last question is optional.)
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:24 AM   #2
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do we get to see your nipples at the end?

1) New Year's Day
2) Treasure (Whatever Happened to Pete the Chop?)
3) Boy. much more consistent throughout than October and War, and also contains three or four songs which i reckon are absolute U2 classics.
5) there's a lot of really good-to-great material that was released, but there's a fair amount of pretty shitty stuff as well. for energy and rawness it can't really be beaten as an era.
6) if anyone says Adam Clayton i'll hunt you down and maim you.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:20 AM   #3
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1.)New Year's Day
2.)Party Girl
3.)War for me. SBS, NYD, Two Hearts Beat As One and 40 and those are only the better known ones! Never mind Like A Song, The Refugee, Surrender, Seconds and Drowning Man! I would say everything on it is brilliant with the exception of Red Light, which is just kind of there. Not as bad as some other track choices they have made, though. Boy runs pretty close and October is half great, half not bad.

3A.) Best album track: Another Time, Another Place or Like A Song.

4.)There are alot, too lazy to look right now and truly recall, but a show on The War tour at Brown University in Providence sticks in my mind! As does the first Boston show at the Paradise in 1980 and a show in Minneapolis on Boy in the Spring of 1981.

5.)I like this period a lot. U2 at its raw and energetic peak, with a clearly unique sound that is developing right before our eyes. To me, it has a truly brilliant and rare combination of youthful angst and energy and deep, meaningful yet universally appealing lyrics.

Where the hell else do you get an 18-23 yr old guy writing lyrics like:

"I fought fate there's blood on the garden gate, the man said childhood, sin and childhood, one day I'll day the choice will not be mine, will it be too late, you can't fight fate."

"Under a Blood Red Sky, a crowd is gathered in black and white, arms intertwined, the chosen few, newspaper says, says, say its true, its true, and we can break through, though torn in two we can be one."

"And the battle's just begun, there's many lost but tell me who has won, the trench is dug within our hearts, and mothers, children, brothers sisters torn apart."

Those are just the highlights.

This era I think stacks up extremely well, it was U2 being U2 when that was truly breaking the mold, not safe at all, not a sure thing but sticking to their guns and letting their passion drive them. They were blazing their own trail at great risk to their artistic and financial future. The energy and especially the profoundness and universal appeal of many of the lyrics coming from such young guys is what still really strikes me.

Its a shame U2 has forgotten that this period ever existed with the 360 tour.

5.)Edge had the worst hair, Adam's was just Adam being the fucking man end of story, Bono's was Bono's and Larry, well, has always looked the exact same.
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I pretty much agree with everything U2387 said above, but anyway I'll answer my own Qs...

What is the best A-side single in this period?

"Sunday Bloody Sunday" was a 45 in the US/Canada and elsewhere at the time, so I'll go with that one. If that doesn't count, then probably "New Year's Day". (But sometimes I think "Gloria" is better.)

What is the best B-side?

Agree -- "Party Girl". Has the added bonus of being an early 'funny' U2 track. "Endless Deep" is also very good. (The rest I find pretty crap.)

What is best album-track from this period?

"Electric Company", "I Threw a Brick Through a Window", or "Drowning Man".

What is the best overall album (from three studio LPs and one live) and why?

Agree with U2387 -- War. Some parts of it haven't aged well, and it might not be quite as consistent as Boy (though much more so than October), but it shifts into a lot of different gears than the first two albums and has much more diversity. Boy is indeed a close second, but, as with many very young bands, they really had just one color on their pallette there (albeit it was a beautiful color).

For those in the know, what is the best bootleg available from this period?

Thanks for the tips U2387; I'll check those out. The one I know from this period that I liked was a show from (I think) Albany, NY in late 1981. Some fine singing there!

What are your overall thoughts and impressions of this early period of U2? How does it compare to other periods? How well/badly has this material aged?

Again, I agree with everything U2387 said. So, refer to his post...

Which member had the worst hair in this period?

Edge all the way. Yet, looking back, I'm sure he savours the memory of actually having some...
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I pretty much agree with everything U2387 said above, but anyway I'll answer my own Qs...

What is the best A-side single in this period?

"Sunday Bloody Sunday" was a 45 in the US/Canada and elsewhere at the time, so I'll go with that one. If that doesn't count, then probably "New Year's Day". (But sometimes I think "Gloria" is better.)

What is the best B-side?

Agree -- "Party Girl". Has the added bonus of being an early 'funny' U2 track. "Endless Deep" is also very good. (The rest I find pretty crap.)

What is best album-track from this period?

"Electric Company", "I Threw a Brick Through a Window", or "Drowning Man".

What is the best overall album (from three studio LPs and one live) and why?

Agree with U2387 -- War. Some parts of it haven't aged well, and it might not be quite as consistent as Boy (though much more so than October), but it shifts into a lot of different gears than the first two albums and has much more diversity. Boy is indeed a close second, but, as with many very young bands, they really had just one color on their pallette there (albeit it was a beautiful color).

For those in the know, what is the best bootleg available from this period?

Thanks for the tips U2387; I'll check those out. The one I know from this period that I liked was a show from (I think) Albany, NY in late 1981. Some fine singing there!

What are your overall thoughts and impressions of this early period of U2? How does it compare to other periods? How well/badly has this material aged?

Again, I agree with everything U2387 said. So, refer to his post...

Which member had the worst hair in this period?

Edge all the way. Yet, looking back, I'm sure he savours the memory of actually having some...
Thanks alot and thanks for the thread!

Great topic!

Your singles choices make me clarify something. I put NYD on top, but SBS, Gloria, I Will Follow and 2 Hearts all are not too far behind.

Also, yes, Brick and Drowning Man are spectacular album tracks!
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1) New Years Day definitly. A real classic.
3)Boy. I think it's a very consistent album, much more so than War and October. I'd rate October second and War last. Yes they only got worse in the beginning. Except for Shadows And Tall Trees I like every song on Boy and there are too much songs I don't like on War and October, though the highlights on War are better than those on Boy.
3)Drowning Man.
5)Well it's my least favourite U2 era but it's still pretty good. They really showed there energy and potential then but the music was hit and miss sometimes.
6)Larry
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1) What is the best A-side single in this period?

2) What is the best B-side?

3) What is best album-track from this period?

3) What is the best overall album (from three studio LPs and one live) and why?

4) For those in the know, what is the best bootleg available from this period?

5) What are your overall thoughts and impressions of this early period of U2? How does it compare to other periods? How well/badly has this material aged?

6) Which member had the worst hair in this period?
1) New Year's Day

2) Treasure

3) With A Shout. I love the energy and Bono's vocals.

4) Wow, tough question. The Boston show from the War tour, which I believed was part of the Complete U2, was great. The October Tour show from Lido Beach, New York was also great.

5) The material has not aged well but I think that makes it even more enjoyable. The energy and passion overshadow everything else, at least for me. It was a fun period that had moments that foreshadowed what the band was capable of. It does not compare well with the rest of the decade or the 90's but like a lot of artists, the youthful beginnings continue to fascinate people.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:15 PM   #8
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1. This is tough for me, but I like New Year's Day and Sunday Bloody Sunday.
2. Party Girl
3. Best album for me is War...this was the first U2 album I ever owned. A very brilliant album like U2387 stated. As for best song, love Another Time Another Place, Tomorrow, New Year's Day, and Drowning Man.
5. Love the U2 material from this period. Every album has an identity of its own. Again, U2387 states it all. U2's music was raw, energetic, passionate, and thought provoking in a time when music was popsy, quirky, and happy.
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not sure why people think Party Girl was the best b-side... remember we are sticking to studio versions here. the live version is great, but the studio version of Party Girl is atrocious... it's Treasure hands down.

Electric Co. & Drowning Man the best album tracks.
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1. Sunday Bloody Sunday
2. Kind of a hard one. IMO not their finest Bside hour...but I'll go with Treasure. I have a soft spot for Touch, but I'd have to be insane to say it was the "best".
3. No way can I pick one...from Boy, Out of Control. From October, Tomorrow. From War, SBS.
3(a?). Boy is the best, I think. It has a certain feel to it, as an album, moreso than the others (although they do). Not Bono's best lyric writing, which is to be understood, but as a package, everything works together beautifully. It's actually my second favorite album.
4. I actually have a lot. The two that always stand out for me are the one from The Ritz in March of 82 (the second night, can't remember the date), and the one from Boston, the date of which has totally left me but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
5. As far as how well the music has aged, I guess that's an opinion, and my opinion is well. Overall, the "early days" is one of my favorite eras, coming in second to JT. But it's like I have a special love for it. Everyone else has said it, the raw energy and hunger of the music they made in this period is a defining factor. Obviously, albums they made with more experience under their belts were "better". But that doesn't stop me from liking Boy in particular more than almost all of them.
6. There is no answer to this question other than Adam. As if the yellow cotton candy fro wasn't bad enough, he did this one day:

What is that?
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why not.

1) What is the best A-side single in this period?
11 o'clock tick tock

2) What is the best B-side?
twilight demo. no really, i'm not much of a fan of any of the b-sides from this era. endless deep is good but it's not good enough for me to call it the best. so i'll go with the so bad it's...bad.

3) What is best album-track from this period?
seconds.

3) What is the best overall album (from three studio LPs and one live) and why?
two #3s? oh and the album photos don't load. anyway...

boy, definitely.

4) For those in the know, what is the best bootleg available from this period?
i dunno. i guess i'll pick red rocks because it's the only one i ever listen to.

5) What are your overall thoughts and impressions of this early period of U2? How does it compare to other periods? How well/badly has this material aged?
it's okay. it's not my favourite, but i'd probably rank it second, under 1991-1997 u2.

6) Which member had the worst hair in this period?
idk they were all okay really. adam's afro is the best but really the rest all kinda sorta had the same hairstyle.
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1. New Year's day

2. Treasure

3. Like a song (by a long shot)

4. BOY

5. Don't know really, don't have a lot of complet bootleg. But some festivals are pretty good

6. Well, to me this is the real U2 in terms of energy. I could give away my 5 Vertigo concert for 1 in 83....really would love to see them at that time. The energy is unreal, Bono is a beast and Larry was hitting his drums like a madman, I like it! I would love them play a bit more material of that era. (was cool on Vertigo, must admit!).
BOY stay in my top 3 album, right after AB and JT. War has aged more than the 2 previous album I think, even though Like a song is the best think they've done of that era.

7. All of them had pretty bad haircuts.... I'll have to go with Larry and his flat haircut...
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Good calls above on "Two Hearts Beat as One" (single) and "Like a Song" (LP track). Those are both great, and seem to have been forgotten today. "Two Hearts" is actually quite an important record in U2's history, but has kinda been swept under the rug.

To make this easier for future posters, you can copy and paste this (numbering corrected):


1) What is the best A-side single in this period?

2) What is the best B-side?

3) What is best album-track from this period?

4) What is the best overall album (from 3 studio LPs and 1live) and why?

5) What is the best bootleg available from this period?

6) Overall thoughts and impressions of this early period? -- How does it compare to other periods? -- How well/badly has this material aged?

7) Which member had the worst hair in this period?
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1) What is the best A-side single in this period?
I Will Follow

2) What is the best B-side?
Treasure

3) What is best album-track from this period?
An Cat Dubh/Into the Heart

4) What is the best overall album (from 3 studio LPs and 1live) and why?
Too tough to call... Sometimes I think Boy, others War, and then there are those times when I realize that October really is great, even with its flaws.

5) What is the best bootleg available from this period?
Paradise Theatre, Boston, 1980

6) Overall thoughts and impressions of this early period? -- How does it compare to other periods? -- How well/badly has this material aged?
This is the era when U2's sound stayed roughly the same over the course of three albums. I love the passion and the energy and the spiritual fervor. U2 has tried to recreate that with recent albums (esp. ATYCLB and HTDAAB), but it's not quite possible because they aren't young any more.

7) Which member had the worst hair in this period?
Adam
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