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Old 02-06-2009, 07:01 PM   #1
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Kings of Leon diss U2?

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Followill says KOL consider themselves first and foremost a live band and don't record any song they can't pull off live. "There's nothing worse in the world than having a record you love and going to watch that band play and they've either got two guys on keyboards behind a curtain, they're playing to tracks, or they don't have that and the song sounds empty," he says.

"We've got a couple songs on this record that have keyboard parts, so our cousin Nacho is our stage manager, and we have him play keyboards on a couple of songs," he continues. "We make sure people can see him. We're not trying to be the Wizard of Oz."
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:02 PM   #2
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Maybe... but again, who gives a...
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I saw them open for U2 a few times...... they weren't very good!
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How is that dissing U2?
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:12 PM   #5
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How is that dissing U2?
Because of that whole story of "there's a guy under the stage" on U2 shows...but I don't think this one was aimed at U2 either.
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KOL have grown on me. Hated them as an opening act for U2, but the music is very good.
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"There's nothing worse in the world than having a record you love and going to watch that band play and they've either got two guys on keyboards behind a curtain, they're playing to tracks, or they don't have that and the song sounds empty," he says.
"Nothing worse in the world", eh? My, my, what sheltered lives they lead.
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Because Bono is the Wizard!!!1!
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:31 PM   #9
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I don't think u2, or any major band for that matter, use a keyboard player "under the stage", for the simple reason that if said keyboardist screws up, it's a big, big noticeable mistake.
I think they would rather sequence parts or play to a tape, simply because then you take the possibility of human error out of the equation.

Besides, in u2's case, Edge plays most of the keyboard stuff.......well, let's say alot of it. So, it's not cheating in my mind. It's not as though the keyboards are equal to Bono's voice, Edge's guitar, etc.....

Re: KOL=suck.
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:31 PM   #10
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Eh, Kings Of Leon.
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:33 PM   #11
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I doubt he's dissing them specifically. Besides, Bono loves the band and recently they hung out together. Someone had photos of them (in PLEBA) I believe leaving a gig in a car together.
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I don't mind Kings Of Leon, but if I hear freaking Sex On Fire again . . . saw them when they opened for Pearl Jam in Sydney a few years ago and they were pretty good . . .

and ^ ditto david
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Terry Lawless, U2's tour keyboardist does mostly sequencing, kicking in tracks and stuff. besides, U2 got Terry up on stage on several occasions (Chamber arrangements of OOTS for example) and any fan with a fair share of knowledge or curiosity knows about him.
Maybe they were referring to U2, who knows... who cares...
Nobody expects the Chemical Brothers to have every blip of their live show actually played live, and I think that as a live act, U2 had already positioned themselves as something beyond the puritan 4 piece some 16 years ago, so I wouldn't refer to that as dissing. it's just a different evaluation of rock and roll aesthetics.

I think some U2 fans have this inferiority complex about U2 as a live band, emerging from a prevalent very narrow-minded idea of what a rock band is, or what "rules" should U2 abide by being a "rock" band. I think it's bullshit and given the speed in which KOL adopted pop aesthetics into their songwriting along their career, I won't be surprised seeing them adopting the same methods they go against in that quote above.

I recently attended a gig of a band called The Apples. Brilliant electro-funk ensemble from my country, has 2 DJ's, A drummer, A double-bass player and a complete brass section. now there was anything live about it, the show was flowing with real vibes of joy and life in the playing and in the music, although many of the sounds coming out of the PA were sequences and samples. An amazing aspect of that gig was that the guy behind the soundboard was wearing the same stage outfit as the band, and watching him react to them and interact with them, directing the music higher and cutting it sharper was a thrill. The band had great instrumentalists, but I actually spent half the gig with my back to the stage, watching that guy tweaking knobs in such an inspired and involved sense of engagement was just as fun, even though the type of music is essentially connected to live playing.

there are just so many aspects to live playing, KOL didn't write the book, they're just following one very good, but very specific chapter of it.
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Sounds like he's dissing the Wizard of Oz...

and Pink Floyd apparently wrote Dark Side of the Moon to coincide with the Wizard of Oz.

Therefore it sounds like he's dissing Pink Floyd.

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...our cousin Nacho is our stage manager, and we have him play keyboards on a couple of songs," he continues. "We make sure people can see him.
I'm just intrigued by this guy, "Nacho." I wonder if he ever dips below the stage?
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KOL loved touring with U2. One of them even said that they realized they needed to focus on songwriting after touring with U2 because U2 had such great songs. It's not a U2 diss. It's just a comment.
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The fact that they have a cousin named Nacho is the most interesting part of that blurb. Even if they were actually dissing U2, it would still be the most interesting part.
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Methinks dopper needs to take off the U2 colored glasses.

Anyways, it's manufactured integrity standards for fucking faux scenesters.

How about this? Play the fucking songs you wrote yourself and don't suck.
That's the only rule worth having.
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Followill says KOL consider themselves first and foremost a live band and don't record any song they can't pull off live. "There's nothing worse in the world than having a record you love and going to watch that band play and they've either got two guys on keyboards behind a curtain, they're playing to tracks, or they don't have that and the song sounds empty," he says.

"We've got a couple songs on this record that have keyboard parts, so our cousin Nacho is our stage manager, and we have him play keyboards on a couple of songs," he continues. "We make sure people can see him. We're not trying to be the Wizard of Oz."

So?
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:59 AM   #20
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I find it funny that there is no mention of U2 in that article, completely U2-unrelated.
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