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Old 03-01-2009, 07:15 AM   #1
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Is everything so pre-programmed....

that U2 are incapable of doing anything off the cuff these days?

The impression I get is that Larry is struggling as he gets older (wrists?) and so more and more is being sequenced and there is less room for anything fresh to be introduced.

The BBC shows on Friday were a god example. On Live Lounge they couldn't play a cover because as Bono said 'we don't have one ready'. Now hold on, a band that has been together forever can't play a cover version?

Then in the evening they played on the roof - Chris Evans asked them to do one more and again Bono made another interesting comment - he had to ask Edge if they 'had another one ready'.

It's a shame, the album has grown on me a little, I still don't think it's a masterpiece by any stretch though. I can't imagine wanting to see them in a stadium this summer though, especially knowing it will be the same show night after night.
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:35 AM   #2
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Im glad your not going, more chance of the rest of us getting tickets.
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:40 AM   #3
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Well, they always were a weak cover band.
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:48 AM   #4
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Im glad your not going, more chance of the rest of us getting tickets.
Great response thanks - if it helps I normally get free tickets anyway, friend of a friend etc.

They used to play plenty of covers - just seems to me that playing live is now is playing by numbers and worse because of it.

Can anyone honestly say they thought the last tour was anywhere near as good as any of the previous tours?
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:13 AM   #6
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I like their albums, but the notion that U2 is a great live band is a myth built by U2 Inc. Just look at their setlists from every tour. They play the same songs, are heavily sequenced and spend way to much time and money on the silly over-the-top production.
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:38 AM   #7
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Yeah, they were never that good at ad-libbing. This is a band that needs rehearsal. But they've been using sequencers to some extent since UF. There are very few songs that don't have some additional element in there.

I don't think it's an "all-of-a-sudden" kind of thing.
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:50 AM   #8
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I like their albums, but the notion that U2 is a great live band is a myth built by U2 Inc. Just look at their setlists from every tour. They play the same songs, are heavily sequenced and spend way to much time and money on the silly over-the-top production.
This is a ridiculous statement. Pink Floyd never altered setlists up much and they are one of the best live bands of all time. Why does it matter how often you swop a setlist around with regard to how good a band you are live?

And that 'silly over-the-top production' as you call it, is one of the reasons how I got into the band in the first place and is why I love them as a live band. Would you rather the band were like Oasis and just stood still routed to the spot for 2 hours?? Oasis play their songs very well live and swop setlists around quite a bit.
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that U2 are incapable of doing anything off the cuff these days?
U2 'off the cuff' IS pre-programmed. They were always going to do 4 songs on the roof. Taking the earpiece out was 'pre-programmed'
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:43 AM   #10
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yeah it sucks, not all rockstars are musicians, you just have to accept it with u2, and try not to get a glimpse of any setlist withim 4 years of the show u plan to attend
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:00 PM   #11
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U2 have said before they are a band that needs practice, none of them are great natural musicians, so they can't just take the chords and play it how some do.

But so what? that which is practised is still amazing isn't it?
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:07 PM   #13
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cry me a river. They would make my day if they played the u2 standards night after night year after year, i would still go
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How can you say that U2 are not a good live band. Watch the slane castle DVD's and think not about the setlist but about the emotional connection with the crowd.

Watch where the streets have no name from that DVD and tell me that all the emotions, feelings, etc... are pre programmed.
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Can anyone honestly say they thought the last tour was anywhere near as good as any of the previous tours?

Yep, I thought it was amazing!!!!!
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I'll gladly pay for your ticket. Another one easier to get.
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Can anyone honestly say they thought the last tour was anywhere near as good as any of the previous tours?
erm, yep . . . thought the Vertigo show that I saw in Sydney (3rd concert) was pretty damn special actually

I like the fact that these fellas know their limitations and just try and do the best they can with what they have . . . they are not 27 anymore so course things will be a little different - I'd still go see em every tour for the next ' . . . ' years even if nothing changed
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Um yeah, Vertigo was an amazing tour. And you haven't seen and heard much of it if you say they always play the same song. Excuse me, they played a lot of different songs on Vertigo. PopMart was the static tour.

U2 are and will always be a great live band. They are better as a band than the sum of its part. They may not be perfect musicians but they create an atmosphere that can turn a stadium into an intimate place.

Live is where U2 live. And I agree that if you don't want to go see them live, someone here will sure be happy to get your ticket.
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They used to play plenty of covers - just seems to me that playing live is now is playing by numbers and worse because of it.

Can anyone honestly say they thought the last tour was anywhere near as good as any of the previous tours?

Personally speaking, I go to a U2 show to see them play U2 songs.

Sure, when they do play the occasional cover, they can be fun (or just plain funny), but I disagree that the live experience is any worse if they don't play any.
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Personally speaking, I go to a U2 show to see them play U2 songs.
. . . lovely stuff
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