Interference's Favorite U2 Song

[cobl04]

I don't take psychology classes. I'm not studying any more, I work full time. Now who looks silly!


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[Kieran McConville]

You know who else looked silly (after 1945 admittedly)








yeah

 

[Galeongirl]

You know who else looked silly (after 1945 admittedly)








yeah

By Godwin's law we are now obliged to stop this discussion at once, as it has reached its end.

 

[Oregoropa]

I'd count OS1 tracks. Where Bono sings it counts as a U2 song IMO. The rest are instrumentals just like Endless Deep and 4th of July. Passengers counts.

 

[Galeongirl]

I'd count OS1 tracks. Where Bono sings it counts as a U2 song IMO. The rest are instrumentals just like Endless Deep and 4th of July. Passengers counts.

So every cover U2 has ever done or Bono has starred in is now a U2 song. Good to know.

 

[BVS]

I'd count OS1 tracks. Where Bono sings it counts as a U2 song IMO. The rest are instrumentals just like Endless Deep and 4th of July. Passengers counts.

That's kind of a weird definition. So do you count Bono's solo stuff as U2?

Does Miley Cyrus' latest album count as a Flaming Lips album?


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[Oregoropa]

That's kind of a weird definition. So do you count Bono's solo stuff as U2?

Does Miley Cyrus' latest album count as a Flaming Lips album?


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When the OP originally said they were 240 some songs I was thinking that would have to include side appearances such as Mission Impossible, Rowena's Theme, I'm Not Your Baby, In the Name of the Father, and 46664 (which is badass if I recall).

 

[Oregoropa]

So every cover U2 has ever done or Bono has starred in is now a U2 song. Good to know.

When I wrote that originally I meant to mean in the Universe of Passengers. YBR, MS, EAA, Slug, Beach Sequence.

*Clarification

 

[Hollow Island]

But that doesn't make sense. Bono writes music too, including on ost 1.

I'm still waiting for an explanation for how miss Sarajevo is "u2 enough" to be on a greatest hits but the album it's
on, with the same credits is somehow not u2.

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[BVS]

I'm still waiting for an explanation for how miss Sarajevo is "u2 enough" to be on a greatest hits but the album it's
on, with the same credits is somehow not u2.

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The same reason a cover with Green Day makes a compilation.

It's a compilation of previous work; MS is a song they worked on. It originally showed up on a side project.

Just like Perry Farrell could release a compilation of solo, Janes, Porno for Pyros.



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[cobl04]

I think Miss Sarajevo is a U2 song.

Mods, can you please ban me immediately?


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[bobsaget77]

Here's the real question. When U2 did that Pavariotti thing in '95 and played Miss Sarajevo. Were they performing as Passengers or U2?
However, they also played One that concert. Were they U2 then? Or was Passengers covering a U2 song? Did they change bands during the concert? We need documentation specifying when and when they were not U2 or passengers on that day.
This is basically the stupidity of the argument. OS1 was made by U2, therefore, it is a U2 record.


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[BVS]

Here's the real question. When U2 did that Pavariotti thing in '95 and played Miss Sarajevo. Were they performing as Passengers or U2?
However, they also played One that concert. Were they U2 then? Or was Passengers covering a U2 song? Did they change bands during the concert? We need documentation specifying when and when they were not U2 or passengers on that day.
This is basically the stupidity of the argument. OS1 was made by U2, therefore, it is a U2 record.


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Your question is exactly what I meant by the pigeon-holing of an artist. Why can't there be crossover, why can't there be fluidity?

Is David Bowie allowed to play Ziggy Stardust songs?


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[cobl04]

Is David Bowie allowed to play Ziggy Stardust songs?

i want to put this in my sig

 

[BVS]

i want to put this in my sig

If you want to embarrass yourself, go for it.


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[cobl04]

you know Ziggy Stardust was a character just like The Fly or Macphisto or Mirrorball Man, right?

 

[LemonMelon]

Let's be honest, this debate isn't about artistic freedom for a lot of people here. More often it's a debate between diehard fans of the album and people who think that OS1 sucks and want an excuse to dismiss it. That's usually what it comes down to.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. The reason why this debate rages on is that there is no clear-cut answer. Personal feelings on the record usually dictate categorization.

 

[BVS]

you know Ziggy Stardust was a character just like The Fly or Macphisto or Mirrorball Man, right?

Well no it was slightly different. He went in with the persona recording the songs, not the other way around.


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[BVS]

Let's be honest, this debate isn't about artistic freedom for a lot of people here. More often it's a debate between diehard fans of the album and people who think that OS1 sucks and want an excuse to dismiss it. That's usually what it comes down to.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. The reason why this debate rages on is that there is no clear-cut answer. Personal feelings on the record usually dictate categorization.

This may be true for some. But there are many that actually like the album and still consider it a side project. Once again, it's not that hard to understand. Some are trying way too hard.


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[cobl04]

But the people who think it's a side project have to come in and say that in every single discussion Passengers has ever been in, until they're blue in the face. And I don't understand why?

LM is right.

 

[bobsaget77]

Let's be honest, this debate isn't about artistic freedom for a lot of people here. More often it's a debate between diehard fans of the album and people who think that OS1 sucks and want an excuse to dismiss it. That's usually what it comes down to.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. The reason why this debate rages on is that there is no clear-cut answer. Personal feelings on the record usually dictate categorization.

But the people who think it's a side project have to come in and say that in every single discussion Passengers has ever been in, until they're blue in the face. And I don't understand why?

LM is right.

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[Salome]

It's only an argument if you want it to be one.
Lots of artists use a gazillion of monikers to release their work.
Will Oldham=Bonnie Prince Billy=Palace Music=Palace Brothers / Aphex Twin=AFX=Polygon Window=The Tuss

Quite often they use a certain alias to show off a certain side of their music.

Of course at the end of the day it's all the same. Passengers and U2 is the same.
To deny though that it actually says Passengers on OS1 and therefore it is Passengers and not U2 is rather bizarre.
And to deny that they chose to show off a different side of their music then they do under the U2 moniker makes me wonder if you have ever listened to any U2 album or Passengers itself.

Anyway, the only reason I brought it up in the first place is because I prefer this asinine discussion to rating all U2 songs.

 

[gareth brown]

yeah you kind of chucked in a grenade and locked the door at first

 

[BVS]

But the people who think it's a side project have to come in and say that in every single discussion Passengers has ever been in, until they're blue in the face. And I don't understand why?

LM is right.

Probably the same reason there are those that have to come in and declare its a U2 album until they're blue in the face. How is it you understand one, but not the other?


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[LadySpinHead]

U2 released OS1 as Passengers for the same reason a well-known author would use a pen name to release works in a different genre: to not confuse the audience or dilute the "brand." Doesn't make it any less U2.


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[Kieran McConville]

U2 should start some other band called, I dunno, The Dalton Brothers, to house their various not-so-great albums. If The Dalton Brothers released HTDAAB, I guarantee it would sell about 5 copies.

 

[MrPryck2U]

Like a number of threads here at the Blue Crack, you never know what you're gonna step into. The thread title has barely been referenced since the beginning. Passngers/U2 can be summed up by our "favorite" U2 song: We're one, but we're not the same.

There's a handful of "songs" proper on OS1, but the rest are instrumentals. I used to listen to the album so I could fall asleep at night. Good stuff!


A "U2" album proper is the promotion/release/tour of said album. Except for U2 fans, no one else batted an eyelash when it was released. It took balls for U2 to release this album, but the record company didn't have the balls to release it as a U2 album. Who knows, it might have sold just as well as Zooropa? But, U2 were "forced" to release it under the cloak of Passengers. Either way, if one wishes to have exclusive membership into bona fide U2 fandom, then they must listen to OS1 in its entirety.

Btw, Always Forever Now was featured in the Pacino/DeNiro movie, Heat. That track is definitely one of my favorites.

 

[Kieran McConville]

Heat has some great choices in its score. Not the hugest Moby fan but 'God Moving Over The Face of The Waters' is near perfection over the closing scene/credits.

 

[djerdap]

90s Michael Mann is perfection when it comes to melding the visuals with music. Promontory in The Last of the Mohicans and Safe from Harm in The Insider are other excellent examples apart from God Moving Over the Face of the Waters, Always Forever Now and New Dawn Fades in Heat.

 

[BVS]

but the record company didn't have the balls to release it as a U2 album. Who knows, it might have sold just as well as Zooropa? But, U2 were "forced" to release it under the cloak of Passengers.

This is revisionist. It started as a project(originally for a real movie that fell through), Eno was at the helm, in fact there were several other songs recorded with Holi that were originally going to be on this project as well, and there was no label forcing anything. Bono made some quip afterwards about maybe wanting to release it as U2, it was Bono being Bono.


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