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Old 06-17-2017, 05:01 PM   #16
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So much of this take is why I do like them live. I tend to gravitate to smaller acts/smaller venues, but Bono and the band can fill the space. Few can. And that humanitarian work...I love it. I am going to guess all the Bono rants added together total less than 10 minutes a concert. And the band is, IMO, a better band live today than in the 80s. Bono has lost some voice, but there are a handful of moments every show when he hits some note that causes my hair to stand on end, and I realize he is still there, just conserving so he can still hit those notes.

To me, and it is an oft-used line and certainly not original, but to me...that is church. I have no problem with Bono going reverend. And here is why, in my own mini-rant:

Bono's stage rants always feel personal, even when they are thematically repeated from venue to venue. He is talking to us, individually. I never feel like he is the embodiment of Roger Waters' Pink. And I cannot say that for most big acts. The most recent example I have, and this will no doubt step on some toes, was Green Day. They were musically tight, awesome, just nailing their songs. But the crowd participation stuff, the "this side say "wooo""..."now this side say "wooo"". "Now follow my hand signaling for the intensity of the "woooo"" felt like musical fascism. It turned me off to no end, especially for a band from Gilman, even if they weren't liked there. And I have no problem with bands going big. But it felt like one big goof on his crowd, like he was angry at us for being there, making his band huge, and he just had to take the money to show us how dumb we were. A lot of implied intent there, I know. But it made me run cold at that show, especially after such and honest and ripping set from Against Me. I never feel like Bono is taking it for granted, or treating his audience as anything less than like-minded folk who want to help, or want to feel the emotion he is feeling, etc. Yeah, he is a master of stage-craft...I am not saying he is of some punk ethic of "no stage, no barrier". It is as far opposite from that as you can get. But I have never doubted his resolve or heart. Even when he rambles too much over an Edge solo.

And that, along with the great songs, is what makes him different to me, and why I don't get mad about his more cringe-worthy moments. I never, ever doubt where it comes from with him. And I am selfish enough to not give a shit about his motives when it comes to getting to hear Red Hill Mining Town and side 2 of the Joshua Tree...take my money, please. For the cost of a great meal and drinks, I get to hear that live? Go be rich, dodge taxes, give some to One, whatever...just do that shit. Please.

I can feel your reasoning, because i have felt it about others and turned off. I just disagree in this case.
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Old 06-17-2017, 05:02 PM   #17
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I really can't take U2 (live) anymore

Didn't like PopMart and thought the wearing of fake muscle shirts, hazard masks and Bono as a boxer was downright embarrassing BUT that Lemon was cool!

Elevation was an AMAZING show and other than his running around the stage at the beginning of Streets, it was cool as ice.

Vertigo was way too preachy and the way he butchered the beginning of Streets still pisses me off. His outfit during Zoostation was embarrassing(that hat was dumb) but the concerts were great.

U2360 was awesome. Thought they looked cool, sounded great and it was entertaining as hell. Artists at U2s level charge a lot for tickets and you definitely got what you paid for!

iE tour was good but Bono looks dumb with the sports coat. Not cool at all. He also looked fat! Go watch Gloria from the Chicago show on YouTube. Unreal song and they sounded great...one of the best versions I have ever heard of he song but his belly sticks out bad...lol oh, and the hair style was B-A-D


JT....haven't seen it yet but if they have through back references to the original...I'm cool with that.

As for the glasses that he wears now....they can go into the vault with the muscle shirts, boxers robe, blonde hair style and that bike he smashed in Central Park.
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Old 06-17-2017, 05:38 PM   #18
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Maybe U2 was never super cool...but that's fine by me because I never wanted to be a person who chases after being cool. I'm kind of dorky...my wife loves me anyway. I have been a U2 fan for 30 years, and openly liked them in middle school during the few years between R&H and AB, when it was DEFINITELY not cool to like them (kids were into hip hop, dance, heavy metal, etc.). I want U2 to be themselves, because that's the band I know and love.

If you don't like what they do, there are plenty of other bands out there. It's okay to not like them.
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There was an astonishing amount of filler in that post and I'm still not sure what the point of it was. Most of the post was about U2 turning into corporate sellouts, but the stuff about the current tour had nothing to do with that at all. More than anything, it was about U2 embarrassing themselves while looking backwards, which was the very thing you seemed to be wishing for.

"U2 haven't put on a show I've liked for 15 years" isn't really threadworthy.
Spot on. In what world is that important enough for starting a thread?
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Bono looks fat and wears bad glasses.

Fuck, he's me.
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Old 06-18-2017, 07:16 AM   #21
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Bono looks fat and wears bad glasses.

Fuck, he's me.
Wish I made as much money as he does for being fat and wearing bad glasses.
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I don't know, man. They blew away my expectations at this show. The precision and ferocity with which they played most of these songs is incredible. Most of that does not translate through a YouTube video so it looks like they're going through the motions- but they're really not.
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What's really cool, is that as an adult that makes your own decisions, you don't have to go see them live.
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What's really cool, is that as an adult that makes your own decisions, you don't have to go see them live.
Agreed. I had my own period of falling out with the band sometime pre 2009. Then NLOTH came, which was the best thing since sliced bread (or pizza) for me, and I became a fan again. Loved the 90s revival in 2010 and 2011. Thought SoI was a turd, but you don't see me making threads about this. It happens, some albums you connect with and some you don't. The tours are usually pretty great live. I don't judge based on youtube clips or dvds or whatever.
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And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
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Yes,yes he had a shirtless user pic back in the day. Maybe stop bringing that up. Who gives a shit?

Well, Panther - think of all the money you'll save on U2 tickets now.


I apologize if this hit a nerve, and looking at the other thread it seems it has. But it wasn't some random reference, his thread focused a lot on superficial fashion choices, hair, etc, and he himself has an infamous questionable fashion related past in here that he would probably not appreciate being written off for.
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Well then by all means, keep needling posters by calling them stupid names.
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Ugh. really? How does talking about sponsorship, carbon footprints and tax haven's mean anything about the live performance or music?

Popmart kicked ass. Hell, even Miami was absolutely incredible live. Edge was truly on fire on that tour, and they were plain, full on ballsy for pretty much the last time.
They put on a huge show, still charge reasonable prices, and are considered one of the best live acts of all time.
They only barely made a profit off of Popmart and only because of merch sales. Didn't make much off of ZooTV and even the record breaking 360 was so pricey to produce that they aren't laughing the whole way to the bank. It shows a bands commitment to putting on a groundbreaking show for their fans.
And in my opinion, the Claw was amazing, not just in it's incredible impressive size and structure, but they again took the process of playing "in the round" to a whole other level. They continue to always stay a step ahead with their production, on SOI/E tour with the walk through screen, and even now with the 200 foot 8k screen.

No one can fault them for always wanting to push forward on their live show and bring the fans a show they feel good about paying for. Even for tickets prices of 35 and 70 bucks, which may get you in the door to see a band like Train, or Counting Crows, or a halfway decent stand up comedy show.
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Well then by all means, keep needling posters by calling them stupid names.


But I didn't call anyone anything... forget it, I'll get back to my book
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Ugh. really? How does talking about sponsorship, carbon footprints and tax haven's mean anything about the live performance or music?

It doesn't, nor was his info on Popmart even correct.
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