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Old 02-22-2009, 12:26 AM   #21
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I still have my vhs recording of it!
Me too. I still watch it once in a while. I thought it was pretty good. Dennis Hopper did narrate it. The VH1 Legends special was good as well.
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Old 02-22-2009, 12:38 AM   #22
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Ahh, A Year In Pop will always hold a special place in my heart. I remember being in Vegas for the PopMart opener when it aired...it had already aired on the East Coast but not in Vegas yet when I was checking my messages online...somebody told me that I REALLY needed to watch it...

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Upper left at 2:34-2:35 into the video, gal in the purple coat...that is me. Had no clue I'd been taped until I saw it...
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I've never seen this! Unfortunately, it's getting late and I was going to do some homework. I'll be back, though.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:28 AM   #24
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I still don't get the whole "K-Mart" thing...I'm glad I was just alittle kid durning this whole fuckery
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Old 02-22-2009, 12:53 PM   #25
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I still don't get the whole "K-Mart" thing...I'm glad I was just alittle kid durning this whole fuckery
It's about irony. They thought the period was about consumerism so they made fun of that. ZOOTV was about 24hr news becoming entertainment and about getting your ideas from TV mainly as something we should be aware of. Americans didn't 'get' Popmart because they thought U2 were serious about the consumerism as opposed to ironic. U2 tested the audience during the 90's and went a little too far for many hence the half empty stadiums in the U.S. Much of the rest of the world loved it though you can see in the Mexico City concert when Bono is talking about "different colors" to the music that the audience wanted them to step back from that, which they ultimately did.

If this new album sells reasonably well they will probably want to stretch it a little though I don't think they will want to stretch it as far. I don't think Larry would allow them to. If you come out with an experimental album during a tour for the 'big' album you can get away with it but you will have to come out with another big album to not totally lose your audience. For example the record company forced U2 to not use their name for Passengers because they knew it wouldn't be a big hit album. The idea is to tease the audience without causing career suicide.
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Oh yeaah .. i taped that one on VHS back then .... great stuff. Especially that "please" rehearsal
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Thanks. I'll watch this later.
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:19 PM   #28
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Man, sometimes Dennis Hopper's narration in this thing is priceless.
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Oh. My. God.
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It's about irony. They thought the period was about consumerism so they made fun of that. ZOOTV was about 24hr news becoming entertainment and about getting your ideas from TV mainly as something we should be aware of. Americans didn't 'get' Popmart because they thought U2 were serious about the consumerism as opposed to ironic. U2 tested the audience during the 90's and went a little too far for many hence the half empty stadiums in the U.S. Much of the rest of the world loved it though you can see in the Mexico City concert when Bono is talking about "different colors" to the music that the audience wanted them to step back from that, which they ultimately did.

If this new album sells reasonably well they will probably want to stretch it a little though I don't think they will want to stretch it as far. I don't think Larry would allow them to. If you come out with an experimental album during a tour for the 'big' album you can get away with it but you will have to come out with another big album to not totally lose your audience. For example the record company forced U2 to not use their name for Passengers because they knew it wouldn't be a big hit album. The idea is to tease the audience without causing career suicide.

Thanks for explaining...


But I still don't really understand the Bubble Pants...
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Thanks for explaining...


But I still don't really understand the Bubble Pants...
Irony!
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KMart sucks Ray... Yeah....
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Thanks for posting this. I watched it back when it originally aired, but I think my appreciation for POP was just starting to set in. And while Dennis Hopper's narration is nothing short of obnoxious, it's great to have some video document of U2 talking about the Passengers and POP.

At the time, I'm not sure I fully understood how pervasive pop and kitsch were going to become. "Pulp Fiction" and the swing and lounge revival seemed indie and cult, and while alternative-rock had pretty much become muscle-rock by 1997, I certainly didn't anticipate American Idol or the whole bad karaoke culture that has become modern music on television (award shows and all). Bono seems rather prophetic there, but then again, if you read all of the lyrics to POP, it's pretty clear that the decadence, sheen and plasticity is decaying his soul. It's a very heavy album, despite the suggestion of lightness in its title.

That being said, after seeing this video, it makes perfect sense why the band had to do a back-to-basics album after POP. Not even just to reel-in their alienated fanbase. But more because it was getting SO glam and glitter, so as to eclipse their simple talent. Too bad that next album was so boring. But I digress...
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It's about irony. They thought the period was about consumerism so they made fun of that. ZOOTV was about 24hr news becoming entertainment and about getting your ideas from TV mainly as something we should be aware of. Americans didn't 'get' Popmart because they thought U2 were serious about the consumerism as opposed to ironic. U2 tested the audience during the 90's and went a little too far for many hence the half empty stadiums in the U.S. Much of the rest of the world loved it though you can see in the Mexico City concert when Bono is talking about "different colors" to the music that the audience wanted them to step back from that, which they ultimately did.

If this new album sells reasonably well they will probably want to stretch it a little though I don't think they will want to stretch it as far. I don't think Larry would allow them to. If you come out with an experimental album during a tour for the 'big' album you can get away with it but you will have to come out with another big album to not totally lose your audience. For example the record company forced U2 to not use their name for Passengers because they knew it wouldn't be a big hit album. The idea is to tease the audience without causing career suicide.
Great post. I, for one, am thankful that U2 decided to put out a more atmospheric and experimental album with this new one. I also love the Passengers, but am kinda glad they didn't put it out as a U2 album. I just like the vibe it has, exactly as is, from name to sleeve art to liner notes, and especially the songs themselves. Though some would argue that Radiohead's Kid A album both teased the audience and attempted career suicide. In the end, it succeeded fantastically, and is my favorite of theirs. I think a lot of people feel the same, no disrespect to Bends or OK Computer.
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I watched this in my hotel at the Treasure Island that Saturday night after the show (Friday). I know U2 took a ton of crap from the media & some fans for the Popmart, but they took a chance many artist won't even consider. They wanted to outdo ZooTV which is pretty much impossible. The electricity/hype surrounding that show in Vegas was amazing.

I can't believe U2 had the guts to take the stage that night let alone carry a tour this ambitious.
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What is it about bands and fruit?
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That is a terrible, terrible documentary.
Dennis Hopper's narration is ridiculous. The worst since Robbie Robertson's narration on the "Making of Rattle and Hum" making-of.
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Agreed. Terrible documentary. But the Passengers and POP sections were worth their weight in gold.

Or at least pyrite...
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:08 PM   #40
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It comes off as a bit self-indulgent. It also has an infomercial feel to it, with Hopper cheesy narration and the hype of Popmart needing to top ZooTV. The band was stumbling in this period, no doubt.
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