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From Rolling Stone, 3/5

It's impossible to take U2 as seriously as they take themselves. When lead singer Bono emotes lines like "No one is blinder than he who will not see" or "Open the door, open the door," I want to usher him aside and wish him a speedy recovery from adolescence. Of course, he means every word. Certainly, he feels like an existential castaway. But until Bono outgrows the urge to reinvent every cliché from scratch ("He was my brother!" "There's a fire in me!") and shout it to the world, the way to enjoy U2 is to consider the vocals as sound effects and concentrate, as the band does, on the sound of the guitar.
U2's contribution to the progress of rock is that they've divorced guitar heroics from the idea of a dazzling guitar hero. Though they're downright worshipful of the Edge's heavy-on-the-reverb Stratocaster — side two of October opens with his tuning the thing up — he's about as much of a technical wizard as Neil Young. When a U2 song has more than two chords (one of them E minor, the people's key), it's a shock. Yet the sound the Edge gets, abetted by producer Steve Lillywhite, is as powerful as the lyrics are silly. His power chords create a terrifying aural abyss for Bono to plunge into, and his simple single-note riffs, drenched in echo and glory, point toward a way out. All this without a single thrust of the crotch.
Unlike U2's debut album, Boy, October generally keeps the guitar in the foreground, not breaking up the echoes with Boy's endless glockenspiels. Perhaps as a result of touring the DOR circuit, U2 try a little funk in "I Threw a Brick through a Window" and use trumpet ("With a Shout") and timbales ("Is That All?") like British neofunkers A Certain Ratio. "October" signals its profundity by utilizing acoustic piano accompaniment. With experiments like these, U2 are obviously attempting to vary their sound, but none of the strategies works as well yet as their basic power-trio dynamics.
Also unlike Boy, October is barely coherent. Boy was an intriguing, one-time-only document — the inside story from children at the brink of manhood — and its compositions were sparked by the tension between the Edge's world-beating guitar playing and Bono's fearful pride. Thank goodness U2 don't have enough showbiz in their souls to repeat the concept on October. Unfortunately, when they try to tap other primal experiences ("I'm falling!"), they sound so sensitive it hurts. Sheer sonic grandeur can carry these guys through one record like October, though. And by their next LP, U2 may have figured out what to do with their angst.
Thanks for posting that. I remember this review. Even though some of us U2 fans might think the writer is being a little hard on them, this is a really well-written review and is amusing as well.

Even rock journalism is worse now! (along with pretty much everything else) I would rather read mixed/bad reviews of ambitious/music-first U2 albums of yesteryear than read the current worshipful Rolling Stone reviews of U2's crapper albums.
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Lol, the Grammies! The worst institution in the history of entertainment industry institutions.

Speaking of being hard, y'all are over-dissing Lionel, his porn-stache, and Can't Slow Down! I had that one on vinyl back when I was about 8. Solid album.*


(*Of course, I would only admit this on an anonymous forum)
 
In the end it comes down to personal taste, music, movies and any other art form are all the opinion of the viewer, listener.

I can say for a fact that many people would prefer listening to Lionel Richie, over Bruce Springsteen or U2 and there really isn't anything wrong with that.
 
If Grammy voters had their way, Nirvana and Radiohead would be forgotten, not the most revered bands of the last 25 years.

Kid A was nominated for AOTY. Considering how out-of-step with the mainstream that recording was, I'd say that showed Radiohead had earned a fair amount of respect from Grammy voters. And then you have In Rainbows, which basically spit in the face of the major label album release/promotion system that many of these voters are part of. They nominated that for AOTY as well.

So, no.
 
In the end it comes down to personal taste, music, movies and any other art form are all the opinion of the viewer, listener.

I can say for a fact that many people would prefer listening to Lionel Richie, over Bruce Springsteen or U2 and there really isn't anything wrong with that.

My grandma would rather listen to Lionel Ritchie than Bruce Springsteen or U2 but she's 84 perhaps that's why they call it "The Granny's" :lol:
 
GRAMMY nominations are being unveiled today. Here are the categories in which U2 submitted to be eligible for:
Record Of The Year, Song Of The Year, Rock Performance By A Duo Or Group, Rock Song - The Miracle Of Joey Ramone

Song Of The Year, Visual Media - Ordinary Love

Music Video (Short Form) - Invisible

Album Of The Year, Best Rock Album - Songs Of Innocence
 
Nominees for Best Rock Song:
"Ain't It Fun," Paramore
"Blue Moon," Beck
"Fever," The Black Keys
"Gimme Something Good," Ryan Adams
"Lazaretto," Jack White
Nominees for Record of the Year:
"Fancy," Iggy Azalea ft. Charli XCX
"Chandelier," Sia
"Stay With Me (Darkchild Version)," Sam Smith
"Shake It Off," Taylor Swift
"All About That Bass," Meghan Trainor
 
It would be quite laughable if The Miracle was nominated for Song Of The Year...maybe if The Troubles was a single or Every Breaking Wave sure but not The Miracle.

Still good to see they got nominated for Best Rock Album, and apparently we have to wait till tonight to see the Album of the year nominations.
 
I would agree that the likelihood of it being nominated in Album of the Year is 30 percent at best.
 
It would be quite laughable if The Miracle was nominated for Song Of The Year...maybe if The Troubles was a single or Every Breaking Wave sure but not The Miracle.

Still good to see they got nominated for Best Rock Album, and apparently we have to wait till tonight to see the Album of the year nominations.


I agree with you 100%.

I like The Miracle but it is not a "record or song of the year" candidate.




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People actually thought The Miracle would get nominated?

I like the song well enough, but the album is far better than its first single.

At least they were able to get the album nominated in some category, and the AOTY category is such insanity every year (considering how many genres it encompasses) that nothing would surprise me at this point.

Also, they might actually have a decent chance of winning Rock Album.
 
If U2 don't get nominated for Album of the year I want Beck to win or The Black Keys. I shouldn't forget Arcade Fire. They should have the Alternative Album locked.
 
They're supposed to announce the rest of the nominations at 2 p.m., according to news reports.
 
Not counting Album of the Year nominations (which will be announced later on), the rest of the nominations have been announced. Only one nomination for U2, so far.
 
Album of The Year won't be announced until CBS' "A Very Grammy Christmas" at 9 p.m.
 
Not counting Album of the Year nominations (which will be announced later on), the rest of the nominations have been announced. Only one nomination for U2, so far.

I'm still not seeing nominees for Album of the Year??

As for Rock Album, Even setting aside my bias, I think U2's was far better than the others nominated.
But with the craziness of this year/album. I'm not holding my breath.
 
If U2 doesnt get the nom for album of the year, their only sure fire way of winning rock album is if none of the other nominees are up for album of the year either. the math of the grammys is always 'if you're up for the major category you're gonna win the minor one"
 
Usually that's the case. There have been some exceptions.

Interestingly enough, because they actually made the deadline instead of releasing right after it as with ATYCLB and The Bomb, some of SOI's tracks could be eligible for next year's nominations. So there's certainly a chance EBW, The Troubles, etc could help rehabilitate the album's reputation.
 
I wonder how the release has impacted SOI's chances. Perhaps the individual songs would have a better shot next year- EBW, etc. Surprised they'd try to get Miracle in there, but the competition isn't too great.


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