Bono and Scott Stapp

[U2girl]

Mark Joseph: Not Your Father's Bono: Creed Singer Scott Stapp's Confession
If Stapp is something you can't bear reading about...here's the interesting bit

Given the task by Mel Gibson of producing a soundtrack CD to accompany his movie The Passion of The Christ, high on my list of artists to recruit were U2 and Creed, since they seemed to be especially outspoken about their admiration for the man from Galilee and Stapp didn't disappoint. After watching the film with us, he turned in a song, "Relearn Love," and also ensured that our CD was released on his label home, Wind-Up Records. I have no illusions that Wind Up's founder Alan Meltzer had any particular interest in the project, but rather that he was doing it to mollify his moneymaker, Scott Stapp.

But Bono was a different story. He had already been reached out to by someone else in Gibson's camp by the time I came on board and one day sent a letter to Mel, declining to participate. Although I could kick myself today for not asking to read it, I instead settled for asking Mel what it said as he read it across the room. Shaking his head, he said that Bono was declining and when I asked him why he matter-of-factly replied: "I guess he has something to lose."


I don't remember reading at the time U2 was asked for a song in Gibson's Passion movie.

 

[Nick66]

Mark Joseph: Not Your Father's Bono: Creed Singer Scott Stapp's Confession
If Stapp is something you can't bear reading about...here's the interesting bit

Given the task by Mel Gibson of producing a soundtrack CD to accompany his movie The Passion of The Christ, high on my list of artists to recruit were U2 and Creed, since they seemed to be especially outspoken about their admiration for the man from Galilee and Stapp didn't disappoint. After watching the film with us, he turned in a song, "Relearn Love," and also ensured that our CD was released on his label home, Wind-Up Records. I have no illusions that Wind Up's founder Alan Meltzer had any particular interest in the project, but rather that he was doing it to mollify his moneymaker, Scott Stapp.

But Bono was a different story. He had already been reached out to by someone else in Gibson's camp by the time I came on board and one day sent a letter to Mel, declining to participate. Although I could kick myself today for not asking to read it, I instead settled for asking Mel what it said as he read it across the room. Shaking his head, he said that Bono was declining and when I asked him why he matter-of-factly replied: "I guess he has something to lose."


I don't remember reading at the time U2 was asked for a song in Gibson's Passion movie.

Considering Gibson called MDH "boring as a dog's ass" (and he was right about that), it's hardly surprising that Bono turned him down.

 

[cobl04]

Seems like Stapp embraced it with arms wide open.

 

[bono_man2002]

 

[U2girl]

Considering Gibson called MDH "boring as a dog's ass" (and he was right about that), it's hardly surprising that Bono turned him down.

One comment made 4 years ago ?

 

[U2DMfan]

Maybe Bono had heard that the film was going to be an incredibly offensive piece of shit?

 

[gvox]

While I found it difficult to watch and challenging to reflect on any human being treated in that manner, I didn't find it to be an "offensive piece of shit", either.

Perhaps it was too stark and literal an interpretation, and Bono preferred not to lend his name to it. Can't say that I blame him.

It was an incredibly moving depiction, I'll say that.

 

[djerdap]

Incredibly moving in its depiction of characters with the personality of a table lamp, exacerbated by the painful Jewish stereotypes, wrapped in slow-motion cheesiness, borderline antisemitism and downright pornographic sadism that made me far more bored and annoyed than moved, sure.

 

[Nick66]

One comment made 4 years ago ?

Bono holds a grudge. Just ask Albert Goldman.

Instant Karma baby, Instant Karma.

 

[Axver]

A subject line like the one this thread has is enough to scare a guy.

And yeah, what djerdap said.

 

[gvox]

Incredibly moving in its depiction of characters with the personality of a table lamp, exacerbated by the painful Jewish stereotypes, wrapped in slow-motion cheesiness, borderline antisemitism and downright pornographic sadism that made me far more bored and annoyed

I take it you stormed out of the theatre in disgust?

 

[martha]

Maybe Mel called Bono "Sugartits" once too often.

 

[trevgreg]

Maybe Mel called Bono "Sugartits" once too often.

I did laugh out loud at that!

Didn't Stapp start talking crap about Bono on a TV poker game a number of years ago? I thought he mentioned something about meeting him and Edge, and then claimed Bono was a "d*ck" or something along those lines. Can't remember for sure though.

 

[doctorwho]

Incredibly moving in its depiction of characters with the personality of a table lamp, exacerbated by the painful Jewish stereotypes, wrapped in slow-motion cheesiness, borderline antisemitism and downright pornographic sadism that made me far more bored and annoyed than moved, sure.

Perfect.

While I admit that watching "Passion" truly showed how horrid the torture was, what Gibson didn't show was WHY anyone would subject himself to that? Gibson seemed more focus on showing Jesus being humiliated and beaten than he did on what was Jesus' rationale. I'm not saying he should remake the story of Jesus - but include something that justifies why one would endure this. Along those lines, something should have been included as to why it was done (based on history, not bias).

Overall, while I was moved by what Jesus, the man, endured for his beliefs, I felt more let down by the movie than inspired.

I did laugh out loud at that!

Didn't Stapp start talking crap about Bono on a TV poker game a number of years ago? I thought he mentioned something about meeting him and Edge, and then claimed Bono was a "d*ck" or something along those lines. Can't remember for sure though.

Irish humor can be harsh. We've all read some of Bono's sharp wit. And to some, that may come across as being a d*ck. However, all of the actual items I've read regarding Bono from celebs (i.e., not rumors) have been praising.

Perhaps Stapp was just upset that Creed was unable to be the next U2 (literally - I heard Stapp memorized R&H).

 

[AltRockAddict]

Maybe it had something more to do with the whole Christian/Catholic conflict that U2 is brilliant at avoiding. Perhaps Bono knew, after reading the script or the treatment, that the devout Christian community would criticize the movie for not going far enough with the purpose of Christ enduring such pain and humiliation, as drwho suggests. Catholics tend to worship the crucified Christ while Christians worship the risen Christ. If only the movie lasted three more days it would have been more unifying. Plus, Bono isn't an anti-semite like Gibson. He was smart not to associate himself. (as usual )

 

[guill]

if it's about Bono and cinema.... there's this stuff from Collider today...

Has there ever been talk of an E.T. sequel?

KENNEDY: That’s gone on for years. And it isn’t just the studio. I’ve had filmmakers. I even had Bono come to talk to me about a sequel to E.T. with an environmental message. The great thing about Bono is that everything he does is in service to a greater cause and even back then his mind is always on about how to put things together to create awareness – so I couldn’t blame him for that…

Henry Thomas and Kathleen Kennedy talk E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL, Jurassic Park 4 and More | Collider

 

[The Sad Punk]

if it's about Bono and cinema.... there's this stuff from Collider today...

Has there ever been talk of an E.T. sequel?

KENNEDY: That’s gone on for years. And it isn’t just the studio. I’ve had filmmakers. I even had Bono come to talk to me about a sequel to E.T. with an environmental message. The great thing about Bono is that everything he does is in service to a greater cause and even back then his mind is always on about how to put things together to create awareness – so I couldn’t blame him for that…

Henry Thomas and Kathleen Kennedy talk E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL, Jurassic Park 4 and More | Collider

Holy shit. We've got a new musical on our hands.

 

[djerdap]

Maybe it had something more to do with the whole Christian/Catholic conflict that U2 is brilliant at avoiding. Perhaps Bono knew, after reading the script or the treatment, that the devout Christian community would criticize the movie for not going far enough with the purpose of Christ enduring such pain and humiliation, as drwho suggests. Catholics tend to worship the crucified Christ while Christians worship the risen Christ. If only the movie lasted three more days it would have been more unifying. Plus, Bono isn't an anti-semite like Gibson. He was smart not to associate himself. (as usual )

Catholics are Christians. The resurrection is their main creed. You could argue that they put more emphasis on the crucifixion (along with the Orthodox Christians), but the main differences with the other Christian denominations lie elsewhere.

 

[Irvine511]

The only thing more upsetting than people finding something spiritually exalting about an orgy of gore like "Passion" (and subjecting their children to it) is the idea of a sequel to E.T.

 

[PhilsFan]

Marlins Will Soar - by Scott Stapp - YouTube

 

[corianderstem]

The only thing more upsetting than people finding something spiritually exalting about an orgy of gore like "Passion" (and subjecting their children to it) is the idea of a sequel to E.T.

No shit. I very rarely have "shut up, Bono" moments, but my reaction to that was an immediate "SHUT UP, BONO!" Followed by an emphatic "NO."

 

[martha]

Just think how sappy The Hands That Built E. T. would sound.

 

[corianderstem]

RESTART AND REBOOT YOURSELF

YOU'RE FREE TO GO

Ohhhhhhh! Ohhhhhhhhh!

ET PHONE HOME!

I'LL BE RIGHT HERE!

 

[doctorwho]

RESTART AND REBOOT YOURSELF

YOU'RE FREE TO GO

Ohhhhhhh! Ohhhhhhhhh!

ET PHONE HOME!

I'LL BE RIGHT HERE!

Lots of hits! $$


I am actually not horribly opposed to an ET sequel. While sequels are usually considered "cash cows", many stories lend themselves well to a second and third story. This is especially true of spy and superhero films, but can work with even cartoons (where I would argue that all the films in the "Toy Story" series were very strong). If ET2 was done correctly - and I admit it's a big if - that could be a fascinating story.

The environmental angle is also interesting. ET saw the Earth in 1982 - what would he think of it just 30 years later?

However, my fear would be a crappy sequel with crappy songs that have crappy lyrics, like above. No need for Bono's writing to turn into later Neil Diamond ("turn on your heartlight...").

 

[corianderstem]

If I recall correctly, the ET book (wasn't it a book first? yes?) had a more environmental theme. Maybe it was a movie tie-in book and it was based off an early script or something.

 

[Irvine511]

there was a tie-in book for ET, but the screenplay was original and not based on other material.

E.T.: The Book of the Green Planet: A Novel: William Kotzwinkle: 9780743216401: Amazon.com: Books

ET's home planet was supposedly very clean, and it was earth's pollution (and LA's smog) that turned him white and nearly killed him.

the Bono story sounds fishy to me.

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

Bono really needs to leave ET alone, or I might have to write him off altogether. ET is sacred.