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my podcast (and why i prolly won't bother coming back to this forum)

Posted 07-11-2007 at 03:33 PM by SkeeK

www.radioslipstream.com/podcast.xml (in itunes, go to the advanced menu and select subscribe to podcast)
check here for playlists
check here for a show description

also.. i really dislike this site sometimes, or at least how it's run. i made a thread about my podcast in jbac, and it was closed by bonochick as per the rules. well.. rules are fine and all, but they're not. they're only fine when they're good ones.

how is this different from someone posting poetry they wrote in Dream Out Loud? Barely. It's a sort of creative expression, plus spreading the word on good music. Definitely not something we want to have in this forum huh? i was under the impression that was the point of the forum...

I hate spamming, too. but i really don't think this is spamming.. this is me basically offering free mixcds to people every week, legally, with absolutely no strings attached. the only thing i get out of it is the warm fuzzies of people discovering new music and listening to my voice every now and then. but i guess i'm not allowed that.

otto has an agreement with elvis so he can break the rules.. great! but why is it allowed? i dunno.. he's blatantly selling things. that is way more like spam than me mentioning (or "advertising" ) my free podcast.. so i guess otto's buddy buddy with the guy who runs the site and that's why he can advertise? oh. is that fair? oh.. it doesn't matter if it's fair, because this is a private site run for private interests. good to see the internet being censored and controlled to the whims of those in power.

i can promote my free service in my signature, though, which i have to pay to have. great!

like i said in my thread.. this is a show that's broadcast on the internet and on the FM airwaves, so I don't think it's illegal.. so that's not a worry. it's just that i wanted to tell people about something i dedicate a whole fat chunk of my time to.

ehhhhh.

i probably won't bother coming back here again. i hate how this place is run now.
i can go to various other sites where the users are treated with far more respect. it's just sad that there are nice people here getting caught up in stupid bs.

laters all
7 years is enough
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  1. Old Comment
    Party Boy's Avatar
    Sorry to see you go Skeek. Have enjoyed listening to your Podcasts.

    For what its worth, I'm here about 7 years and I've about 1300 posts. Not a lot - for many reasons, most of which are the same that your leaving for. However, I come here for my U2 news and try to stay out of the clique that exists. There is a lot to be said for lurking!!

    Take care!
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    Posted 07-11-2007 at 05:13 PM by Party Boy Party Boy is offline
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    Kiki's Avatar
    well I'm sorry to see you go. Im even more sorry that I don't have speakers on my computer here where I can access this site. :sad:

    :hug: take care :wave:
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    Posted 07-11-2007 at 06:06 PM by Kiki Kiki is offline
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    indra's Avatar
    If you don't like the rules, you leave. Or you break them and pay the price. That's pretty much the way it works everywhere. :shrug:

    While I didn't mind your thread in B&C I really wouldn't want to see everyone start individual threads on all their pet projects. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't either as it could get very cluttered mighty fast.

    Perhaps instead of doing what you knew isn't allowed here you could have suggested that one thread be set up for people to post links to their podcasts/radio shows/blogs/etc. in B&C. It could be a bit like the Myspace thread. That would allow people to promote different music and yet would keep the clutter down. You'd get what you want, and it wouldn't be a big hassle for the mods.
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    Posted 07-11-2007 at 06:44 PM by indra indra is offline
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    martha's Avatar
    Some of us are nice people who don't think it's bs.

    I'll miss you though.
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    Posted 07-11-2007 at 06:52 PM by martha martha is offline
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    anitram's Avatar
    I love your music taste.

    I will keep in touch via Facebook. :)
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    Posted 07-11-2007 at 07:13 PM by anitram anitram is online now
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    drumkeeran's Avatar
    I'd have to agree with Indra. Sometimes it's not the point that we break the rules, but that we get embarrassed about it. Personally, I've found when I get caught doing something I probably knew wasn't totally above board, I get embarrassed for being called out - and not being totally perfect or goody all the time. I typically blame others and act not so nice. But then I count and take a deep breath, look in the mirror and admit my accountability. Try to look at this in a positive light and don't blow off the community who likes you as a part of it. We'd miss you.
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    Posted 07-11-2007 at 09:40 PM by drumkeeran drumkeeran is offline
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    Calluna's Avatar
    Skeek, the locked thread has only increased the hype about your podcast. It works in your favour in the end. I'll definitely be checking it out soon. Thanks for the link.
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    Posted 07-12-2007 at 12:37 AM by Calluna Calluna is offline
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    SkeeK's Avatar
    in response to some comments..
    i don't read the rules every day.. i don't even come around here all that much anymore. i know there's a no spam rule, but i wouldn't count this as spam. but when i was here a few days back, i saw a link to otto's u2 prints sale, and so i figured if that was okay.. advertising a business.. i figured it was okay to talk about something free. i'm not a fan of hypocrisy.

    also.. this whole 'people shouldn't be allowed to talk about themselves' policy is bullshit. sorry to use such harsh language.. but it is. it is bullshit. if someone on the forum, who's a regular contributer, has a band.. damn right i want them starting a thread and linking to some of their music. especially if it's good. maybe they want some constructive criticism. that's what i'd like to hear about my show, too. it's okay to start a thread about something if it's not yourself? lame. let's have some respect for ourselves here, and not look to celebrities and established bands our community.
    yeah there's a line, where people are spamming, and being stupid. but i did not cross that line, and these 'rules' that are so important believes the line is way over on one side... except for otto. he's special. he doesn't have to follow the rules like everyone else. nothin against otto.. he takes great pictures. but it's not fair to the rest of us.
    and yeah if i don't like the rules so vehemently i should leave. that's sort of a cop out in a way, since i believe in standing up for what i think is 'right' or 'fair' or 'proactive'.. but this is just some stupid internet forum that's run in a way i have huge problems with.. so i'm better off leaving.. just for stress levels and that. and it'll give me a couple more minutes in the day to find a job. cause the bums will always lose.

    also don't think i'm like backing out of this forum cause one of my threads got closed.. i never liked how it was run.. and this was just the proverbial straw.
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    Posted 07-12-2007 at 02:58 AM by SkeeK SkeeK is offline
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    Bonochick's Avatar
    Quote:
    www.radioslipstream.com/podcast.xml (in itunes, go to the advanced menu and select subscribe to podcast)
    check here for playlists
    check here for a show description
    I'm glad that you took the advice that was given to you and utilized your journal for this purpose.

    Quote:
    also.. i really dislike this site sometimes, or at least how it's run. i made a thread about my podcast in jbac, and it was closed by bonochick as per the rules. well.. rules are fine and all, but they're not. they're only fine when they're good ones.
    They're only fine when they're good? Everybody has a different definition of good. Some people may think having the rule we do is good because, as indra basically said in her comment, it prevents Interference from getting littered with everybody posting a thread about his or her own site, blog, podcast, whatever.

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    how is this different from someone posting poetry they wrote in Dream Out Loud? Barely. It's a sort of creative expression, plus spreading the word on good music. Definitely not something we want to have in this forum huh? i was under the impression that was the point of the forum...
    Dream Out Loud is a forum that was specifically created for people to share their creative work, so of course it's all right for that stuff to be posted. If there was a forum here for people to post their podcasts, then you posting your podcast would be completely appropriate. Such a forum doesn't exist though.

    B&C is great for spreading the word on good music, but there are also rules to be followed. Plenty of music is introduced without people advertising their own sites. It seems like everybody and their brother has either a blog or a podcast or something, and we can't have everybody starting threads to post links to their own.

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    I hate spamming, too. but i really don't think this is spamming.. this is me basically offering free mixcds to people every week, legally, with absolutely no strings attached. the only thing i get out of it is the warm fuzzies of people discovering new music and listening to my voice every now and then. but i guess i'm not allowed that.
    You ARE allowed it...by either posting the information in your signature and in your journal. We just don't allow you to start your own thread to promote it.

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    otto has an agreement with elvis so he can break the rules.. great! but why is it allowed? i dunno.. he's blatantly selling things. that is way more like spam than me mentioning (or "advertising" ) my free podcast.. so i guess otto's buddy buddy with the guy who runs the site and that's why he can advertise? oh. is that fair? oh.. it doesn't matter if it's fair, because this is a private site run for private interests. good to see the internet being censored and controlled to the whims of those in power.
    Did you ever verify with Elvis that that is the case? Because when I mentioned that, I said I was not sure. I also don't understand how you can acknowledge that this site is private but then complain about censorship and power. If Elvis decided that only people with the letter "Q" in their username were allowed to advertise their sites, would that be fair? Doesn't really seem like it, in my opinion...but it's his site, so he can make up whatever rules he wants. You may think it isn't fair that he doesn't allow people to advertise their sites through individual threads...but that is how he chooses to have HIS board operate.

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    i can promote my free service in my signature, though, which i have to pay to have. great!
    When you purchase a premium membership, you aren't JUST buying the option of a signature. There are many other features as well. I'd imagine that having a signature was one of the features added to make the premium membership option look more appealing and to also give it as much bang for its buck as possible. If you are going to sell memberships, not all features can be free.

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    like i said in my thread.. this is a show that's broadcast on the internet and on the FM airwaves, so I don't think it's illegal.. so that's not a worry. it's just that i wanted to tell people about something i dedicate a whole fat chunk of my time to.
    I don't think anybody was questioning the legality of it...I wasn't, at least.

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    ehhhhh.

    i probably won't bother coming back here again. i hate how this place is run now.
    i can go to various other sites where the users are treated with far more respect. it's just sad that there are nice people here getting caught up in stupid bs.
    I find that insulting, as I feel I have been treating you with great respect. I have been trying to be very fair, polite, and kind in dealing with this issue. I always try my best to behave in such a manner here.

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    laters all
    7 years is enough
    I remember years ago when you were a member I greatly enjoyed having a part of the community. I would still enjoy having you post here with us, but if your anger over simply not being allowed to start a thread to promote your podcast going to be the final straw to keep you away, there's nothing I can do. I'm sorry that you feel that the board has gone down the tubes.

    Personally, I would have liked to leave your thread open. I think that the rule is too strict, and I have mentioned this in the past. The rule is good in a sense because it prevents a whole slew of people from cluttering up the forum with threads advertising their own sites and projects. However, it means that threads like yours, which a lot of people would probably enjoy and is done just out of kindness and enjoyment, get canned. Therefore, I'm not a 100% fan of the rule, but I'm not sure if it could be changed in a fair way that would allow good people to share decent sites and still prevent people from being able to spam us. I have a feeling we'd end up with a lot of, "Why did his thread get to stay open but mine didn't?" kind of stuff.

    Take care and good luck with the podcast.
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    Posted 07-12-2007 at 02:48 PM by Bonochick Bonochick is offline
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    SkeeK's Avatar
    i have nothing against you at all, bonochick. so please don't be insulted by what i said.. i probably shouldn't have used your name cause it made it seem personal i guess.
    but re: the whole private site/censorship thing. Of course I have a right to acknowledge that a privately owned site is run in a way i don't like, and be upset because i'd rather things were run in a way i think is good. of course it's my opinion.. that's why i can choose to leave. but i don't think it's at all hypocritical to want things to be different from how they are.
    there're private forums that don't have rules that cause me such annoyance, so i'll go there.
    is it allowed for people to post a list of songs they put on a mix cd? that's no different practically.
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    Posted 07-13-2007 at 01:45 PM by SkeeK SkeeK is offline
 

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